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Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]
Date	2018-01-01 18:40 +0100
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On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:28:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>WHY should one with "Read-only" access be able to delete it?

A number of people have already explained that the ability delete 
requires write permission on the directory containing the file. You 
don't seem to have acknowledged that. This is the only way the semantics 
make sense, or else a user would be able to create a file that the owner 
of the directory would not be able to get rid of. As someone else 
already posted, when you delete a file you're not really deleting the 
file--you're removing one of potentially many directory entries in one 
of potentially many directories. Most people can get by without knowing 
that, and acting as though the directory entry and the file are unique 
and related, but if you start trying to manipulate permissions it is 
important to understand what's actually going on.

Mike Stone

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File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-01 12:30 +0100
  Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2018-01-01 12:40 +0100
  [ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-01 12:40 +0100
    Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-01-01 13:10 +0100
      Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-01 18:00 +0100
        Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-01 19:30 +0100
          Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-01 19:40 +0100
            Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 12:10 +0100
        Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-01-01 19:40 +0100
          Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-02 15:10 +0100
        Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2018-01-02 13:40 +0100
          Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-02 15:20 +0100
            Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-01-02 16:40 +0100
              Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-02 19:40 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-02 19:40 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-02 19:50 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-02 21:10 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-02 22:20 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 21:30 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-02 21:50 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-03 00:20 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-01-02 21:10 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-02 21:40 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-01-06 06:20 +0100
    Re: [ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-01 13:10 +0100
    Re: [ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-01 20:40 +0100
  Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-01 17:30 +0100
    Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-01 18:30 +0100
      Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-01 18:40 +0100
        Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-01 18:50 +0100
          Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-01 19:10 +0100
            Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-01 19:20 +0100
              Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-01 19:40 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-02 15:30 +0100
                Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-02 23:50 +0100
          Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-01 19:20 +0100

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