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strawman [was: LUKS password gets printed as stars]

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject strawman [was: LUKS password gets printed as stars]
Date 2017-12-23 19:10 +0100
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 03:14:25PM +0000, Curt wrote:
> On 2017-12-23, Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

[...]

> > And I suppose, guessing 15 digits will cause a loooooong time [...]

> (Assuming all 95 printable ascii characters) link to % time savings:

[...]

>  An interesting mathematical quirk about this ratio of the number of passwords
>  shorter than n [...]

It's interesting how threads among us geeks can be totally derailed
by a simple strawman (i.e. no-stars >= stars "because of security"),
while the OP's motivation was rather "familiarity" (at least (s)he
didn't say anything about security), which in itself is legitimate
enough.

And watch this thread wander off to the woods on whether no-stars
is more secure than stars, and whether significantly so.

Fascinating :-)

Cheers
- -- t
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Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars root kea <rootkea@gmail.com> - 2017-12-18 20:40 +0100
  Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-12-18 21:30 +0100
    Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-18 22:30 +0100
    Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars root kea <rootkea@gmail.com> - 2017-12-19 19:00 +0100
      Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-12-19 19:30 +0100
        Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars root kea <rootkea@gmail.com> - 2017-12-19 20:10 +0100
          Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-12-19 21:10 +0100
          Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-12-19 22:50 +0100
            Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars root kea <rootkea@gmail.com> - 2017-12-20 12:10 +0100
              Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-20 23:40 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-21 10:20 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-12-22 22:30 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 00:00 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 14:00 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-12-23 14:40 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-23 16:20 +0100
                strawman [was: LUKS password gets printed as stars] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-23 19:10 +0100
                Re: strawman [was: LUKS password gets printed as stars] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 20:50 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-21 12:10 +0100
          Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-12-19 23:10 +0100
            Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-20 08:50 +0100
              Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-20 12:00 +0100
                Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-20 12:40 +0100

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