Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot

From	Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot
Date	2017-11-16 21:20 +0100
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Joe composed on 2017-11-16 19:27 (UTC):

> I see the date of the page is 2015,

IIRC, that 2015 update was all about updating and/or replacing broken links.

> Multiple OSes will still use one overall bootloader, which may or may
> not redirect to other bootloaders. It is common, therefore, to use a
> single physical partition for /boot, common to all *nix OSes....

Mounting the same single primary partition as /boot to all *nix OSes invites
virtually the same trouble that installing Grub to MBR causes. Absent user
intervention, each OS thinks it owns the space, so at updates times, each stomps
on whatever is there at the time, eventually exhausting its freespace with a
multitude of diverse kernels and initrds. Only one OS, or no OS, should mount
the bootable physical partition to /boot. Others can either have their own
bootloader installed to their own / filesystem, or be used without their own
bootloader.

On most of my PCs, the bootable primary is never mounted to /boot. I manage it
manually myself, providing direct loading of kernels and initrds, as well as
chainloading entries, and configfile entries, the latter two used primarily when
prior kernels are to be booted, the former for most booting.

For someone doing multiboot the first time, it's easiest, if not a requirement,
for the first installation to have the primary mounted to /boot. The subsequent
installations either need to have no bootloader or bootloader only installed to
/; or, the newer can be configured to mount the primary on /boot, and the
original, prior to its next boot, preferably immediately prior to starting the
new installation, reconfigured to not mount the primary on /boot, not manage the
bootloader installed there, and relocate its content to its own / filesystem.

Multiboot setup is complex, one of the reasons why virtualization became
popular. There is no single right way to get where you want to go. For a
beginner it helps a lot to have an extra PC to do the learning, and for doc
access while doing the installations and configurations on the other. :-)
-- 
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

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Thread

Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 04:50 +0100
  Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-11-13 07:20 +0100
    Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 16:30 +0100
      Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-13 20:10 +0100
        Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 21:10 +0100
        Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-14 00:10 +0100
          Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-14 01:50 +0100
            Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-14 03:40 +0100
              Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-14 04:00 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-14 04:50 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-16 19:40 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-16 20:10 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-16 23:40 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-16 20:30 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-16 21:20 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 19:10 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-29 19:20 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-29 19:50 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-29 19:40 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 21:40 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-29 22:00 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 22:40 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 22:10 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-29 23:10 +0100
                Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-17 00:00 +0100
              Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-11-29 10:10 +0100
      Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-11-13 20:20 +0100
        Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-14 00:30 +0100
          Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-11-14 00:40 +0100
  Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2017-11-13 10:00 +0100
    Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 17:00 +0100
      Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2017-11-13 21:30 +0100
  Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-11-13 13:00 +0100
    Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-11-13 17:10 +0100
      Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 18:10 +0100
    Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-13 17:10 +0100
      Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-13 20:00 +0100
        Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 04:20 +0100
          Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-11-29 08:10 +0100
          Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-29 10:10 +0100
            Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-11-29 19:00 +0100
          Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-29 20:00 +0100
            Re: Debian 8 and Debian 9 Dual Boot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-11-29 20:40 +0100

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