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Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade

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On 2017-10-17 at 11:49, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:44:20AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> The /etc/environment setting only specifies the default
>> environment; in order to make it take effect, you'd have to
>> reboot.
> 
> No, you just have to login again (or trigger whatever else you're
> doing that uses the pam_env module).  Unless this is yet another
> thing where GNOME breaks unix.

Hmm. Okay, I'll admit that I didn't specifically test this - but I'm
used to launching things from a WM menu, and that inherits environment
from the WM, which inherits it from either X or the ~/.xinitrc which
gets invoked (eventually) from startx, which inherits it from the
console where I logged in in the first place.

Resetting that environment would seem to require shutting down X and
re-launching it, and probably logging out at that console and logging
back in before the re-launch, and by the time I've closed things down
that far I'm close enough to fully shut down that I might as well reboot
(to pick up kernel updates, etc.) anyway.

And since most people use GUI login nowadays, which AFAIK involves X
getting invoked even before login occurs, I would have expected that
even logging all the way out wouldn't be enough to get the X environment
fully reloaded.

It's entirely possible that nothing in my stack except /bin/login itself
(if even that) draws on PAM at all.

> Of course, /etc/environment is basically useless for anything
> complex, because you can't pull shell parameter expansions in it.
> Only constant strings.

Noted, but it does seem to work well for this purpose.

Is there an obvious place where this file is documented? 'man
environment' is the only thing that springs to my mind, barring Google
searches, and that turns up no entries.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Pétur Viljamson <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-10-16 23:00 +0200
  Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-10-17 05:10 +0200
    Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 17:30 +0200
      Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-10-17 17:50 +0200
        Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-17 17:50 +0200
          Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-10-17 18:10 +0200
            Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-17 18:30 +0200
  Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2017-10-17 20:40 +0200
    Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-10-17 23:10 +0200
      Re: ugly fonts in thunderbird after sid upgrade Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 00:10 +0200

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