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Re: Spam on Debian lists

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Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de>
> wrote:
>
>> fc:
>> >
>> > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff?
>> 
>> You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list
>> masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300
>> Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day.
>> 
>> > I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1
>> > delete on the front end could prevent a lot of woe.
>> 
>> Your help is appreciated:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam
>> 
>> Obviously, this only affects the archive after all subscribers already
>> received the spam message. Moderating all Debian lists is not a job
>> that anybody wants to do (and it wouldn't even be appreciated).
>> 
>> > *Even more so* -- it seems like unauthorized users can email this
>> > list?
>> > 
>> > Why not just restrict it to people who have subscribed?
>> 
>> Because this excludes use cases that are deemed valid by the list
>> masters.
>  
> Like what?
>
> Why not this:  To post or reply to the list, you must be
> a subscriber; but to read/browse (even search archives, etc.), you
> do not. This is the way most of the lists I've been involved with have
> been set up.  Works quite well controlling spurious posting by 'bots.
> One list I used required annual renewal..

That would preclude those of us who still read it on usenet.

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