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Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

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Like numerous linux users I have sometimes lamented coming to terms with
systemd. My belief is that it's a well-written collection of software which
is somewhat over-engineered. It fills a need, sure, though I've managed to
live and work without it for a long time (been using linux since 1994). And
who am I to question Torvalds and Co. on the subject of its suitability for
linux and the data center?

So the other day I was on a recently-built Amazon AWS EC2 instance, running
one of the AWS-branded linux AMIs, fixing things in /etc/init.d. Thinking
about how AWS might rule the world someday, since they already hold about
35-40% of the public cloud (
http://www.geekwire.com/2017/cloud-report-card-amazon-web-services-12b-juggernaut-microsoft-google-gaining/).
Then I had one of those "Duh!" moments: There must be on-the-order-of a
million of linux instances on the planet which are _not_ running systemd,
as AWS's own linux AMIs do not by default.

It seems to me that this data point has been completely ignored in the
years-long discussions about systemd's merits, flaws and suitability.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for system administrator and
> > distribution authors.
>
> {systemctl,journalctl,etc.} --user beg to differ.
>
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Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <j.deboynepollard-newsgroups@ntlworld.com> - 2017-04-13 23:20 +0200
  Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-04-14 15:00 +0200
    Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-04-14 15:40 +0200
      Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:10 +0200
      Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-04-14 16:20 +0200
        Re: Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then  ...) Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org> - 2017-04-17 00:30 +0200
      Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 17:40 +0200
      Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
        Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 21:40 +0200
          Fwd: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 01:10 +0200
    Re: Systemd services Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-04-14 18:10 +0200
    Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...) Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 00:40 +0200

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