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Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

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On 04/21/2017 10:51 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, fc wrote:
>> Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff?
>
> Yes, listmaster@lists.debian.org does.
>
>> I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 delete
>> on the front end could prevent a lot of woe.
>
> We discard large swaths of spam. Some inevitably makes it through.
> People replying to known spam doesn't help, though.
>
> See https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam for what
> you can do to help

There lies a significant problem.
It states *IN PART* "There is a "report as spam" button in on the list 
archive page of each message."

I believe the design of that button is flawed.
It *ONLY* asks if respondent considers that message to be "SPAM".
It DOES *NOT*:
   1. ask for confirmation.
   2. ask WHY message should be considered spam.
Also, it does not apparently record *WHO* flagged a message as "spam".
I verified that point by experiment.

There ONE person on this list who routinely disagrees with me.
I chose one of his most spurious posts.
Using https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/... I viewed one of his 
sillier replies.
I chose to report it as spam.

That was apparent end of the evaluation process.
I'm *NOT* suggesting that the poser should be banned.
He occasionally posts useful comments.

Who/What is appropriate authority to address suggestions for improving 
the situation.





>
>> *Even more so* -- it seems like unauthorized users can email this
>> list?
>>
>> Why not just restrict it to people who have subscribed?
>
> Because that just adds more hoops to jump through for people with a
> legitimate question, and lots of spam forges From addresses nowadays,
> anyway.
>

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Re: Actually [Re: Some spam] Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-04-21 18:00 +0200
  Re: Actually [Re: Some spam] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-21 19:50 +0200
    Re: Actually [Re: Some spam] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-21 20:40 +0200
    Re: Actually [Re: Some spam] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-04-21 21:40 +0200
    Re: Actually [Re: Some spam] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-04-21 22:20 +0200

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