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Re: Wan/Lan problem

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Wan/Lan problem
Date 2017-03-29 21:20 +0200
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On 03/29/2017 08:51 AM, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:14:50PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 04:46:02PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm runniing Debian 7.11 on a Pentium 3 with 250MB ram. ...
>>>
>>> phone        eth0         eth1 AT&T-------|   |--------|
>>> |--------|   |-------|   | AT&T modem/     Linux         my Win2K
>>> router       box         router       box
>
> The Linux box is my main computer, it's just a computer but runs my
> firewall.
>
> My router is NetGear RP614 and all connections to the router are on
> the lan side, nothing in the i'net port. Just the 2 computers and
> the printer.
>
> The Win2K box is just a computer but has my music and financials.
> Each box serves as backup storage for the other.
>
> No Wi-Fi, pods, phones, tablets, game consoles, laptops, etc.
>
> Any other thoughts/suggestions?

Any device with multiple network interfaces and that passes packets
between them is functioning as a router.


It is unwise to use one device as both a firewall/router and as
anything else -- especially a workstation/desktop (that's where the
intruders like to break in).


Regarding the Netgear RP614 router, which one?

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RP614v1

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RP614v2

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RP614v3

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RP614v4


I have the same recommendation as rhkramer:

On 03/29/2017 05:50 AM, rhkramer wrote:
> Put your router immediately after the AT&T modem, then (assuming
> there are multiple ethernet ports on the router), put your Linux box
> on one eth port and the Windows box on another.  (That would require
> 3 ports on the router.)

Plus:

1.  Connect the RP614 WAN port to the modem.  The RP614 has 4 LAN ports; 
connect two of these to the Linux box and to the printer.

2.  Check the version of the firmware in the Netgear RP614.  Download
and install current firmware if needed.  Also, check if there are known 
vulnerabilities.  (I doubt open-source firmware is available, as the 
RP614 does not have a Wi-Fi interface, but it might be worth some 
searching.)

3.  Win2K is unsupported.  Therefore, it must be treated as insecure and
should not have access to your LAN or to the Internet.  Options include:

     a.  Unplug the network cable ("air wall").  This means putting
backups on an external drive.

     b.  Check if your hardware, music apps, and financial apps are 
supported by Windows 7.  If so, upgrade and connect to a free LAN port 
on the RP614.

     c.  Migrate your music and financial apps to the Linux box and 
retire the machine.

4.  For backups, I prefer a dedicated machine that pulls files over ssh
and is firewalled to block all incoming ports.  (I need to research 
firewalling outgoing ports as well.)  If/when an intruder breaks into 
any/all of the other hosts, hopefully I will figure it out before he 
gets into the backup server.

5.  There is a saying, "don't throw good money after bad".  My guess is 
that your Win2K machine is also outdated hardware.  My P3 computers went 
to curb-side recycling years ago.  I'm trying to squeeze a little more 
life out of my high-end P4's, but they will follow sooner or later.  I'd 
suggest getting newer hardware and migrating all your apps and data onto 
that.  Older machines can be useful as firewall/router appliances (e.g. 
http://www.ipcop.org/), backup appliances, and spare/ workbench/ 
experimental/ etc. machines.


> Thanks to Dan, David & Tomas for the help.

YW.  Please let us know how it goes.


David

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Wan/Lan problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@copper.net> - 2017-03-29 03:20 +0200
  Re: Wan/Lan problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-29 04:20 +0200
    Re: Wan/Lan problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@copper.net> - 2017-03-29 18:10 +0200
      Re: Wan/Lan problem Joshua Schaeffer <jschaeffer0922@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 20:50 +0200
      Re: Wan/Lan problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-29 21:20 +0200
      Re: Wan/Lan problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-29 21:50 +0200
  Re: Wan/Lan problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-29 09:20 +0200
    Re: Wan/Lan problem rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-03-29 15:00 +0200
      Re: Wan/Lan problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@copper.net> - 2017-03-29 23:30 +0200
        Re: Wan/Lan problem rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 15:50 +0200
  Re: Wan/Lan problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-29 11:50 +0200
  Re: Wan/Lan problem kAt <giathnygeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-29 23:10 +0200
  Re: Wan/Lan problem Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2017-03-30 13:30 +0200
    Re: Wan/Lan problem Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@copper.net> - 2017-03-31 02:50 +0200
      Re: Wan/Lan problem Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2017-03-31 03:50 +0200
        Re: Wan/Lan problem [SOLVED] Mike McClain <mike.junk.46@copper.net> - 2017-03-31 23:10 +0200

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