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Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro
Date 2016-10-21 20:20 +0200
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On 10/21/2016 11:46 AM, Doug wrote:
>
> On 10/21/2016 10:21 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 10/21/2016 8:32 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
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>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 08:09:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> I'm creating a preseed.cfg file for installing Debian 8.6 in a
>>>> dual-boot environment with some version of MS Windows. There
>>>> are two
>>>> distinct use cases:
>>>>     1. Two of my machines with WinXP Pro SP3
>>>>     2. A remote (~1000 miles]friend with several machines -
>>>> some with
>>>> WinXP, others with
>>>>        Windows 10 or later.
>>>
>>> Uh, oh. Microsoft and time handling. This won't end well :-/
>>
>> *ROFL*
>>

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I have discovered on my WinXP machine that:
    1. WinXP _displays_ the correct time.
       "Date and Time Properties" - Time Zone set to
           (GMT-06:00)Central Time(US&Canada)
           Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes
    2. Debian 8.6 w MATE run from LIVE DVD _displays_ the correct 
time
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>>>>     3. Debian 8.6 w MATE installed from DVD 1 of 13 with aid
>>>> of custom preseed.cfg
>>>>        _displays_ a time 5 hours earlier.
>>>>        The _display_ is independent of whether
>>>>             d-i clock-setup/utc boolean true
>>>>                         *OR*
>>>>             d-i clock-setup/utc boolean false
>>>
>
> Yes, It's Windows' fault. Unfortunately, I don't remember the
> details, but the cure is in the Registry.
> If you google the problem, somewhere along the way, you will find
> the Registry hack that fixes
> the problem.

*Begin test sequence*
power off
power on
start Debian - time displayed 08:00 AM
power off
power on
start WinXP Pro SP3 - time displayed 01:00 PM
"Shut Down Windows" choosing "Restart" menu option
Chose Debian from Grub menu - time displayed 08:00 AM
shut down with restart option
Run Debian from Live DVD - time displayed 13:12
Shut down with power off
power on
Run Debian from Live DVD - time displayed 13:12
*EOT*

CONCLUSION
Can *NOT* blame Microsoft Windows for EVERYTHING ;/


>
> --doug
>>> This observation alone suggests strongly that this installation
>>> "thinks" it should use the UTC (or any equivalent) time zone
>>> to fudge back its way from the hardware clock to the UTC.
>>>
>>> What is the value of d-i time/zone?
>>
>> Relevant lines of preseed.cfg are
>>
>> ### Clock and time zone setup
>> #d-i clock-setup/utc boolean false
>> d-i clock-setup/utc boolean true
>> d-i time/zone string US/Central
>> d-i clock-setup/ntp boolean false
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> - -- tomás

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Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-21 15:20 +0200
  Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-10-21 15:30 +0200
    Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-21 16:50 +0200
    Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-21 17:10 +0200
      Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-21 19:50 +0200
        Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 17:10 +0200
          Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-22 17:10 +0200
          Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-22 17:50 +0200
            Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 04:50 +0200
  Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 15:40 +0200
    Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-21 16:30 +0200
      Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2016-10-21 18:50 +0200
        Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-21 20:20 +0200
          Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 21:20 +0200
      Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 21:20 +0200
        Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro tomas@tuxteam.de - 2016-10-21 21:30 +0200
          Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-21 22:20 +0200
            Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 22:40 +0200
  Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-10-22 22:10 +0200
    Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-22 22:20 +0200
      Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-10-22 22:20 +0200
        [REPOST] Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-25 14:20 +0200
        Side effects of specifying use of NTP on installation???? - was [Re:  Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-25 14:20 +0200
  Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 16:50 +0200
    Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-29 17:30 +0200
      Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 18:20 +0200

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