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Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick

From tomas@tuxteam.de
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick
Date 2016-10-21 11:10 +0200
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:51:54AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le decadi 30 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, tomas@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> > > So there is a major difference in the way Linux and windows handle
> > > file naming. The file names look the same on both Linux and windows,
> > > but behind the scenes they are not.
> > You'd need more evidence to convince me of that. Among other things,
> > fat (and even the Rube-Goldbergian vfat) are stable since long, and
> > (by current standards) relatively simple.
> 
> There is a major difference in filenames between Linux and Windows, though.
> 
> For Linux, a filename is an arbitrary sequence of octets, with only two
> values forbidden: 0x00 used as a string terminator, and 0x2F, used a
> directory separator. Translating these sequence into printable string is
> entirely up to the applications, with most applications having converged to
> UTF-8 nowadays.
> 
> For Windows, a filename is a sequence of Unicode code points, encoded in
> various ways: sometimes as UTF-16, sometimes as a legacy 8-bits encoding,
> sometimes as UTF-8 masquerading as a legacy 8-bits encoding. On the sectors
> of a VFAT device, I think it is UTF-16.
> 
> Since VFAT is a Windows filesystem, Linux has to adapt to handle it, this is
> the role of the various nls_* kernel modules.

This is correct. There's even more to it -- Windows is kinda case-insensitive
(kinda: it can write upper and lower case, but it doesn't differentiate,
a good way to inadvertently overwrite a file :)

But all of this doesn't make a file system corrupt. It can produce funny
file names, though.

regards
- -- t
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Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 18:20 +0200
  Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Børge Holen <holen.borge@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 18:40 +0200
  Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-20 19:00 +0200
    Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-10-20 19:30 +0200
      Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-20 20:10 +0200
        Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-20 20:50 +0200
          Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-20 21:10 +0200
            Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-20 21:30 +0200
              Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-20 21:50 +0200
                Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-20 23:10 +0200
                Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-10-21 00:30 +0200
        Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-10-20 23:20 +0200
          Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Mr Smiley <mr_smiley_home@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-21 00:40 +0200
            Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 10:40 +0200
              Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-10-21 11:00 +0200
                Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick tomas@tuxteam.de - 2016-10-21 11:10 +0200
    Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-10-20 20:10 +0200
  Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-20 19:20 +0200
  Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-10-20 23:00 +0200
    Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Børge Holen <holen.borge@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 00:50 +0200
    Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 15:30 +0200
      Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-10-21 15:50 +0200
        Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick rlharris@oplink.net - 2016-10-21 17:30 +0200
      Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-10-21 21:10 +0200
  Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-10-22 10:50 +0200

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