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Re: Canon printer minor quibble

From Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Canon printer minor quibble
Date 2016-10-01 12:20 +0200
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On Saturday 01 October 2016 04:32:31 Brian wrote:

> On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 00:39:35 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 22:48:38 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > > On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 17:00:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 03:49:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > > "CUPS is the standards-based, open source printing system
> > > > > developed by Apple Inc. for macOS® and other UNIX®-like
> > > > > operating systems."
> > > > >
> > > > > which is stretching the truth IMHO, given the normal meaning
> > > > > of "for", "and", and "other", written in that order. Calling
> > > > > it "Common UNIX Printing System" would blow that out of the
> > > > > water.
> > > >
> > > > Their use of "developed by" is rather jaw-dropping as well. 
> > > > Perhaps they mean it in the sense of "maintained by", but I
> > > > think most people
> > >
> > > No, they mean "developed by...".
> > >
> > > > would read it as "created by" which is blatantly untrue.
> > >
> > > Most people have an understanding of language (which you appear to
> > > lack) and would read it as "developed by...".
> >
> > I think that was rude and uncalled for.
>
> And crediting someone with indulging in doublespeak, being a lawyer
> and deserving pity isn't?
>
> > The clever thing about the web page is the careful omission of a
> > comma after system, so that the sentence gets read as
> >
> > C is the S   that is   developed by A
> >
> > rather than
> >
> > C is the S,   which was   developed by A.
> >
> > My observation is that most computer software websites credit the
> > original authors/creators/developers in a place easily found by
> > casual visitors. I haven't found any mention of Sweet outside the
> > blog, and only a mere two occurrences there.
>
> CUPS 2.2.0 was released on 13 Sep 2016. It was developed by Apple.
> CUPS 2.2.x will be developed by Apple and released soonish. CUPS
> 1.6.x, CUPS 1.7.x and CUPS 2.0.x were developed by Apple. Apple is the
> only entity developing CUPS. "C is the S that is developed by A" looks
> an accurate reflection of the state of affairs.

The last msg I have from the cups@cups.org mailing list is in may of 
2016, and is signed by:
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

Its possible I am not getting that list since moving my mail server usage 
to shentel.net, I had to call their support and have ALL my mailing list 
subscriptions whitelisted, and I may have failed to specify 
cups@cups.org as a good address to allow through. Humm, its acting like 
a new subscription request. So we'll see if it works.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 17:00 +0200
  Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 18:20 +0200
    Re: Canon printer minor quibble deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 19:20 +0200
      Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 01:20 +0200
    Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 01:10 +0200
      Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 00:00 +0200
        Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 00:50 +0200
          Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 12:30 +0200
            Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 17:10 +0200
              Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-29 19:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 15:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 19:20 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 01:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 15:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 16:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 16:40 +0200
              Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 14:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 14:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 15:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 15:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-09-30 15:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 16:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 16:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-30 16:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 16:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-09-30 16:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 17:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 17:20 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-09-30 17:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 20:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-09-30 23:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 00:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 21:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 01:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 16:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 17:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-09-30 17:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-09-30 17:30 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 17:20 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-30 20:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 19:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 15:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 23:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-09-30 23:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-30 23:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 07:50 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 10:40 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 12:20 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 21:00 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-05 22:20 +0200
                Re: Canon printer minor quibble Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-06 01:30 +0200

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