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Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored?

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On Tue 06 Dec 2016 at 23:09:59 +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:

> On 12/06/2016 09:26 PM, Brian wrote:
> 
> That all said: I'm not a huge fan of NetworkManager, I think
> some aspects of it are not well enough thought out to my
> taste - but it does it's job in the case of WiFi, and it does
> it well, better than the alternatives I've seen so far.

I've never really used NetworkManager, not because I think it is lacking
in some way but because the alternatives of ifupdown, wpa_supplicant and
ConnMan etc do a good job for me and my users when at home or roaming.
 
> > However, it is worth acknowledging that Debian has the most complete
> > integration of ifupdown with wpa_supplicant you will find. It also has
> > excellent documentation to help with explaining this integration. There
> > are some things Debian does so well that they are unsurpassable.
> 
> Yes, and the primary use case I see for this are headless
> servers or similar that are connected via WiFi, where the
> connection rarely changes. I would not want to use that on a
> laptop though, because you never know when you'll want to
> connect to a different network.

The author of the README.Debian doesn't appear to take the same view as
you. I use what is in it as the basis for my roaming setup on a laptop.
I've just refreshed my memory on the what needs to be done: a stanza or
two in /e/n/i, a couple of lines in a wpa_supplicant.conf and an install
of wpa_gui. Connecting to a different network with wpa_gui doesn't seem
to be any more difficult than using any other GUI application.
 
> > Just in case you think you
> > cannot point and click when you have direct enduser control over the
> > supplicant, think again. There is wpa-gui.
> 
> Last time I tried wpa_gui troubleshooting with it was a huge
> mess, and I had to resort to wpa_cli to actually get some
> sensible information about what was going on. Maybe that has
> improved since (it's been a couple of years), but my
> experiences with it have been bad.

I think any serious debugging of a wireless issue would inevitably
involve wpa_cli at some point. I do agree, though, that wpa_cli as a way
of end-user interaction isn't desirable in the normal course of events.
Thank goodness for NetworkManager and all the other GUI stuff.

-- 
Brian.

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Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Robert Latest <boblatest@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 09:10 +0100
  Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-12-06 11:10 +0100
  Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Yvan Masson <yvan.masson@openmailbox.org> - 2016-12-06 11:20 +0100
    Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 20:00 +0100
      Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-06 20:20 +0100
      Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-12-06 20:30 +0100
      Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 20:50 +0100
  Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-12-06 11:20 +0100
    Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Robert Latest <boblatest@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 17:10 +0100
    Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-06 21:30 +0100
      Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2016-12-06 23:20 +0100
        Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-12-07 18:30 +0100
  Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 12:50 +0100
  Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 20:00 +0100

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