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Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific

From The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific
Date 2016-11-20 18:30 +0100
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On 2016-11-20 at 11:46, Joe wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:14:47 +0100 <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

>> Sorry I can't offer more details: I'm not "in" the intricacies of
>> desktop environments. For me, they are too intricate and finicky,
>> therefore I prefer to run without.
>> 
>> I mount my media explicitly.
> 
> So do I. If I don't want a USB stick mounted, I don't plug it in.

That's not explicit; it's invoking the implicit mount which your system
is configured to execute upon the device being connected.

Unless you are explicitly issuing a command which says "mount this
device to this path", you are not _explicitly_ mounting the media; it
either is not being mounted at all, or is being mounted automatically.
Connecting a device does not equal issuing a command to mount it.

> If I do plug it in, apart from formatting, why would I not want it
> mounted?

Perhaps because you know the drive is damaged, such that the mount
attempt will fail (and might hang, or even spawn zombie processes), and
you don't want the system attempting to access it unnecessarily.

Perhaps because there are multiple filesystems on the device, and you
only want to mount one of them. (Perhaps you even want to refrain from
updating access timestamps which get updated on mount or unmount; I
believe there are filesystems which include that behavior.)

Perhaps because you want to _choose_ where to mount it to, according to
criteria specific to the case at hand, rather than relying on whatever
global defaults are configured.

Perhaps because you want to dump an unmodified copy of the filesystem to
a file on local disk, without risking the filesystem being modified
during the mount / unmount process.

I imagine there may be other possibilities...

> I don't want any applications or media to autorun, but I do want the
> filesystems mounted.

That's an entirely reasonable usage pattern, but it is not explicit
mounting, and there are legitimate reasons why someone might want
different behavior.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-19 20:00 +0100
  Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-19 21:40 +0100
    Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 13:10 +0100
      Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-11-20 13:20 +0100
        Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 13:40 +0100
          Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-11-20 13:40 +0100
            Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 14:20 +0100
            Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-20 15:00 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-20 15:20 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-11-20 18:30 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-20 19:00 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 15:20 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 15:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-20 17:20 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-20 15:40 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 18:50 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-11-20 19:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 20:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-20 20:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-11-20 21:10 +0100
      Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-20 15:40 +0100
  Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 00:10 +0100
    Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 03:00 +0100
      Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 14:40 +0100
        Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 14:50 +0100
          Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 18:50 +0100
  MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site  specific] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-20 21:30 +0100
    Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions --  site specific] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 22:00 +0100
      Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 13:50 +0100
        Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions --  site specific] Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2016-11-21 14:30 +0100
          Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-21 14:40 +0100
            Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions --  site specific] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-21 15:20 +0100
              Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 16:40 +0100
                Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions --  site specific] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 17:30 +0100
                Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 17:50 +0100
              Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file permissions --  site specific] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 18:30 +0100
                [off list] Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file  permissions -- site specific] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-22 16:00 +0100
                Re: [off list] Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file  permissions -- site specific] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 19:00 +0100
                Re: [off list] Re: MURPHY'S LAW RULES - was [Re: Coercing sane file  permissions -- site specific] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 19:00 +0100
  Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-21 14:20 +0100
    Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-11-21 15:00 +0100
      Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-11-21 15:10 +0100
        Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-21 15:20 +0100
          Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 17:40 +0100
            Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-21 18:20 +0100
              Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 18:40 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-21 19:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 20:40 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 21:50 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-22 16:10 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-22 16:20 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-22 16:40 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 17:00 +0100
                Re: Coercing sane file permissions -- site specific Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-22 17:00 +0100

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