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Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset

From Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset
Date 2016-05-11 15:20 +0200
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Hi there


tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:34:29PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:

<Cut>

>> I actually thought about this. But it just seems crude;
>>
>> vim some.txt
>> ^vufeff<Enter>
>> <Esc>:wq<Enter>
>>
>> It does work though.
>> But I want UTF-8 without a BOM. It is, after all, the default locale.
>
> Everyone wants that... except Microsoft, it seems.
>
>> Is Firefox really this braindead?
>
> Sometimes I fear that too.
>
>> Note: If you edit this again, vim doesn't show the BOM any more.
>> It's there though.
>
> That's because it has been enshrined by the Unicode Consortium. I think
> I know who pushed that (Apple might have helped, though). So Vim's
> correct in tolerating that on input.

I don't think they like BOM. After all they named it 'ZERO WIDTH 
NO-BREAK SPACE'.

> Perhaps you can help yourself by even uglier tricks (like with an
> http-equiv header in your HTML). But best would be if you could
> exorcise this abject behaviour from Firefox.

For HTML this works.

I can even put hieroglyphs in a plain text file and print it using a 
plain text print queue. UTF-8 just works.
Firefox however, insists on putting a square peg into a round hole.

> Let us know...

The only way to fix this is probably to edit the source.

I have a very old iceape that actually gets it right. An older version 
had a 'remove all bookmarks' button, which no longer exists.
With iceweazel one actually has to create a bookmark to switch 
javascript on and of (the plug-in for this does not work).
And with jesie's apache there is no longer a default mime-type or 
cern-meta module because _NO_ _ONE_ uses this any more.
Apparently I'm a figment of my own imagination.


Regards,
rob

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Iceweasel uses wrong charset Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-05-11 11:00 +0200
  Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Frédéric Marchal <frederic.marchal@wowtechnology.com> - 2016-05-11 11:20 +0200
  Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-05-11 11:20 +0200
    Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset err404@free.fr - 2016-05-11 11:30 +0200
      Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Frédéric Marchal <frederic.marchal@wowtechnology.com> - 2016-05-11 12:00 +0200
        Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-05-13 12:10 +0200
    Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-05-11 12:00 +0200
      Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-11 12:20 +0200
        Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-05-11 12:40 +0200
          Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-11 12:50 +0200
            Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-05-11 15:20 +0200
              Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-11 16:30 +0200
                Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-05-11 18:50 +0200
                [partially solved]Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-05-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: [partially solved]Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-05-12 08:30 +0200
                Re: [partially solved]Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2016-05-12 18:00 +0200
        Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2016-05-13 12:20 +0200
      Re: Iceweasel uses wrong charset Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-05-11 12:30 +0200

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