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Re: Flash update

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On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:12:41 -0500
David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun 03 Apr 2016 at 09:38:00 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 23:34:58 -0500 David Wright
> > <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > > When flash streams a movie, a copy is downloaded somewhere on my
> > > disk. One beneficial effect of this is that if I click the slider
> > > to an earlier point in the movie, the player plays instantly from
> > > that point, without a wait for buffering. Is that the same with
> > > HTML5, or is it truly streaming (with no local copy on the disk)?
> > 
> > I'm not sure about this. Just because moving to an earlier point in
> > the stream resumes from that point instantly does not necessarily
> > mean that flash is downloading a local copy- I'm pretty sure flash
> > just keeps the entire stream in RAM, just like HTML5.
> > 
> > Either way, HTML5 does this too- you can instantly resume from an
> > already-buffered point.
> 
> No, flash writes a file. It doesn't take much ingenuity to find it.
> 
> Generally speaking with youtube, it's straightforward to find the
> 11-char string and use get-youtube to download the movie. With some
> other sites, it doesn't appear possible to get hold of a downloadable
> URL, so playing the movie and copying the flash file is the only way
> I know for downloading it.
> 
> I would prefer not to lose that ability through selecting HTML5
> merely because some people here say "Down with flash/Flash is dead".
> If HTML5 *does* keep the information in RAM as you say, then I'm
> stuck because I don't know how to find it or copy it. Can you help
> with this?

No. Since I don't use Flash, I know very little about how to use it,
and for that I apologise.

However, your original complaint was that you needed Flash to be able
to resume instantaneously from an earlier point in the video. Both
Flash and HTML5 players do this.

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  Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-02 06:10 +0200
    Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-02 21:40 +0200
      Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 18:10 +0200
        Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-03 21:00 +0200
          Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 21:00 +0200
    Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 08:30 +0200
  Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-02 06:40 +0200
    Re: Flash update Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-02 12:10 +0200
    Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 07:40 +0200
      Re: Flash update Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 13:40 +0200
      Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 06:20 +0200
        Re: Flash update Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-04-04 08:50 +0200
          Re: Flash update Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0200
          Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 17:20 +0200
        Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-04 17:20 +0200
          Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 21:30 +0200
            Re: Flash update Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-05 02:40 +0200
              Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 03:00 +0200
                Re: Flash update Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-05 03:50 +0200
                Re: Flash update Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-05 11:10 +0200
                Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 18:00 +0200
  Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 21:50 +0200
    Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 15:10 +0200
      Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 16:20 +0200
        Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0200

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