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Re: Further to my installation error

From Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Further to my installation error
Date 2016-03-20 18:00 +0100
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On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:45:36 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2016-03-20 05:34 (UTC-0400):
> > Adam Wilson wrote:
> >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 +0000 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> > No.  I checked and double checked that the partitions on the disk
> >> > which I wanted to use for installation were all marked with the F
> >> > for format, and that nothing on the disk it had been told to
> >> > leave alone had an F.  It kept wanting to format the spare disk's
> >> > swap, which I did not want.
> >>
> >> Why not? You wanted to carry over the swap created by a previous
> >> installation?
> >
> > Doing that, leaving a potentially dirty swap for a new install?  No
> > sensible reason to do so, format that puppy.
>
> In multiboot, re-formatting swap is a problem creator. Mounting is
> generally via UUID. Formatting changes UUID. Missing UUID at boot
> usually means booting into rescue mode to repair fstab. So at best,
> assuming one swap per system and not mounting by device name, one
> installation *might be* benefited to the (probable) detriment of only
> one installation. In all other cases in which a unique swap per
> installation is not used (which never happens here), and swap mounting
> is not by device name (here, swap is often by device name), one
> installation might be benefited, to the detriment of multiple
> installations.

Faced with a similar problem as Lisi's during this install as I had 4 
drives in it then and 3 swaps mounted, I did remove the other drives, so 
my fstab is by UUID for everything I am using. Memory is now faint, but 
ISTR, when I first rebooted after plugging in the drive amanda uses as a 
tape vault, I ran blkid and used the UUID to add that drive to fstab.

When I do a new install, I generally do it on a new drive, but its been 
in the machine long enough to go get any firmware updates it needs and 
reflash them. Every drive I've bought locally or from NewEgg or Tiger 
Direct in the last 5 years has had old, buggy, sometimes slow firmware 
in it, so they all will probably need reflashed for using them for work.

I might add that my drive failure rate since I started doing that has 
fallen off a cliff.

sda says 23,000+ hours
sdb says 58,000+ hours

Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but no 
clue as to how many spares are left but that does sound like its time to 
retire it.  Both are older 1 terrabyte drives that I planned on 
replacing this summer. The newer crop of drives seems to be maturing, 
but I also expect the newer drives will be 4 kilobyte sectors too. 
Hopefully by then our disk tools will have caught up and can 
transparently use both GPT partitions AND 4Kb sectors.

The current boot drive is a 4Kb sector drive, and I frankly had one hell 
of a time using the installers disk tools, getting it properly aligned 
so its read/write speed was at least usable.

Thanks Felix & everybody that has read this far.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 20:10 +0100
  Re: Further to my installation error "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 20:40 +0100
    Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 21:30 +0100
      Re: Further to my installation error doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2016-03-15 22:00 +0100
        Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-16 19:10 +0100
      Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 23:50 +0100
        Re: Further to my installation error David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-03-16 00:10 +0100
        Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-16 19:10 +0100
          Re: Further to my installation error David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-18 22:00 +0100
            Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 23:30 +0100
              Re: Further to my installation error David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-19 02:30 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 10:30 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 13:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 20:20 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:30 +0100
              Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 10:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 10:40 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 12:50 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 15:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 17:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 19:30 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 23:20 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-20 14:50 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-20 19:50 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-20 20:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-25 20:50 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-25 21:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-26 10:50 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 23:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 00:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-03-21 06:10 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:30 +0100
            Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 10:00 +0100
        Re: Further to my installation error Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 20:30 +0100
          Re: Further to my installation error Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-16 21:20 +0100
            Re: Further to my installation error Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 21:50 +0100
              Re: Further to my installation error Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 00:20 +0100
              Re: Further to my installation error Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-17 03:20 +0100
              Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:40 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-20 13:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 15:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-20 16:00 +0100
                Re: Further to my installation error Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-25 20:40 +0100

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