FIXED - I hope!! Laptop wireless problem

From	Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	FIXED - I hope!! Laptop wireless problem
Date	2016-07-10 13:20 +0200
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On Saturday 02 July 2016 01:15:27 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The built in wireless on the Dell Inspiron 9300 suddenly stopped working.
>
> Having poked around a bit with wicd and network-manager (not
> simultaneously), I am checking whether the problem is sudden hardware
> failure.  I plugged in a USB network card.

About half way through the saga I unplugged the external network card because 
it was muddying the waters.

I cannot say which bit of the saga worked.  Probably all of it, and I can only 
advise anyone with a similar intractable problem to follow the thread.  I 
could not see how it could be software, but ....  Deloptes and Brian both 
thought that it was software, so that had to count with me.  They were, of 
course, right.  They were likely to be right.  Experience coupled with 
instinct counts.

I have glossed over mentally the fact that the Debian network-install CD 
didn't succeed in connecting.  I have, for now anyway, accepted that I don't 
know why that was: I have no experience of doing net-installs over wireless.  
I have always used a wired connection for installation. Ubuntu, as I feared 
when it was suggested, was a complete dead loss.  Ubuntu-MATE after 4 HOURS 
had still not succeeded in booting, though it was still ploughing on.

The last few things I did were:
Change the SSID and password of my wireless router/connection point.
Use Brian's method for manual connection, and go back to NM, which could 
suddenly consistently connect (though it still couldn't, before that 
particular manual connection).
Give up trying to get NM to set DNS servers.  Setting them manually worked, 
and that would probably have been where I left it if it had been for me.  But 
I needed a consistent fully working automatic wireless connection with 
functioning DNS.

So, for, I think the third time on the saga, I fully purged my network manager 
(at this point NM) and installed the other one (in this case wicd – which had 
been uninstalled in the first place because it wasn't working).

I now have what appears to be a fully functional connection and shall be 
restoring the laptop to its owner.

Thank you all for all your help, especially deloptes and Brian.

Lisi

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Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 02:20 +0200
  Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 03:50 +0200
  Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 15:10 +0200
    Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 18:00 +0200
    Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:00 +0200
      Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely  was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 16:20 +0200
        Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:40 +0200
  Re: Laptop wireless problem Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-07-02 16:40 +0200
    Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 18:10 +0200
      Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 18:20 +0200
        Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 20:30 +0200
          Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 00:20 +0200
            Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:30 +0200
              Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 14:00 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 14:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 16:00 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 18:00 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-07-03 19:20 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 16:00 +0200
            Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:50 +0200
              Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 12:50 +0200
        Re: Laptop wireless problem Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-07-02 21:20 +0200
          Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 16:00 +0200
            Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 21:10 +0200
              Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 23:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 09:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 14:10 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 15:50 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:10 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 17:20 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 17:40 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 18:00 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 18:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 18:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 20:50 +0200
              Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 02:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-07-04 13:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-07-04 14:30 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-07-04 16:20 +0200
                Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-07-04 16:30 +0200
        Re: Laptop wireless problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 22:20 +0200
  Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 18:30 +0200
    Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 19:00 +0200
      Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 19:50 +0200
        POSSIBLY SOLVED Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:20 +0200
      Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 19:40 +0200
    Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 21:00 +0200
      Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 22:20 +0200
        Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 23:50 +0200
      Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 00:10 +0200
  Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely  was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 18:40 +0200
    Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 19:40 +0200
      Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely  was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 20:10 +0200
        Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:40 +0200
          Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely  was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 21:00 +0200
          Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 21:00 +0200
      Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely  was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 01:10 +0200
    Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 00:40 +0200
      Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 01:10 +0200
      Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi  card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 10:30 +0200
        Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 16:00 +0200
          Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 16:10 +0200
            Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 16:20 +0200
              Re: Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi  card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 17:20 +0200
    Success after all!!! - was: Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 00:40 +0200
    Re: Totally non-functioning wifi card- starting again completely was: Re: Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 01:40 +0200
  FIXED - I hope!!  Laptop wireless problem Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:20 +0200

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