Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

From	"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: debian-to-windows message transfer
Date	2024-11-17 20:40 +0100
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On Sunday 17 November 2024 12:11:37 pm Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:47:20 -0600
> John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:
> 
> > Joe writes:
> > > Yep, if a web designer can't put a single character on a screen
> > > without using JS, the rest of his offering is not likely to be worth
> > > making an effort to look at.  
> > 
> > They don't use JS.  They use "website builders" that produce
> > unreadable masses of HTML and JS that pull in chunks of JS from a
> > dozen or more random sources out on the Net.  The designers neither
> > know nor care what that JS does as long as it puts the dancing doggie
> > in right place on your screen.
> 
> Yes, I realise that, but it would not be beyond even the most feeble
> website designer to manually edit in a string saying something like
> 'JavaScript is necessary to display this page', which would be
> overwritten by the content if JS is enabled. 
> 
> OK, it's not much, but it's less hostile than a completely blank screen
> which says 'we don't give a damn about you if you don't do things our
> way'.

Some web pages that I hit display just fine,  but then there's this bright red banner across the bottom of the screen saying something about how javascript is required for the page to display properly.  Since as far as I can see it's already displaying properly,  I just use the "nuke anything" to "remove this object" and it's gone.
 
> I've seen 'HTML' embedded in emails, I know nobody has manually typed
> the thousands of characters of stupid formatting markup, and certainly
> almost nobody actually makes an effort to display something useful for
> text-only readers. I don't expect the average web surfer to know that
> there's more than one way to do things, but I do expect those who
> aspire to create content to be a bit more aware.
 
HTML-only emails are a particular annoyance for me.  I'm fine with it if there's a text part on top that I can read,  but if not,  I don't bother enabling the processing of that stuff,  I just delete 'em.


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debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-16 05:40 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-16 05:50 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-16 06:50 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-11-16 10:50 +0100
        Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-16 11:50 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2024-11-16 17:40 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-11-18 23:10 +0100
        Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-11-19 08:50 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2024-11-16 07:40 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-11-16 17:20 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-11-16 11:30 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-11-16 11:40 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Henrik Ahlgren <pablo@seestieto.com> - 2024-11-16 18:50 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-11-20 08:20 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-11-16 14:20 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-16 19:20 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer eben@gmx.us - 2024-11-16 20:20 +0100
  Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-16 19:10 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-16 20:30 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-16 20:50 +0100
        Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-16 22:40 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-11-17 10:40 +0100
        Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-17 15:40 +0100
          Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-11-17 15:50 +0100
            Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-17 18:50 +0100
              Re: debian-to-windows message transfer <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-11-17 19:00 +0100
              Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-11-17 22:10 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-18 02:20 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-18 02:40 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-11-18 03:20 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2024-11-18 03:30 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-18 04:00 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-18 03:50 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-18 04:10 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-11-18 04:40 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-18 05:30 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-18 13:10 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-11-18 17:50 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-11-18 03:30 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-18 03:40 +0100
          Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-17 16:30 +0100
            Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-11-17 16:50 +0100
          Re: debian-to-windows message transfer debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-11-17 17:40 +0100
    Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-11-16 22:00 +0100
      Re: debian-to-windows message transfer debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-11-17 10:40 +0100
        Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Roger Price <debian@rogerprice.org> - 2024-11-17 11:40 +0100
          Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-17 16:30 +0100
            Re: debian-to-windows message transfer John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-11-17 17:00 +0100
              Re: debian-to-windows message transfer Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-17 18:20 +0100
                Re: debian-to-windows message transfer "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-11-17 20:40 +0100

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