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Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?

From Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?
Date 2024-02-28 16:10 +0100
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Hello,

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 02:58:13PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I don't foresee real cron going away any time soon.

If you today install bookworm base system and select no packages,
the only reason why you get cron is because logrotate depends upon
it. If you do not need logrotate then you can also remove cron, and
nothing complains.

It seems likely that at some point logrotate will become optional
(because of journald) or that logrotate will get a systemd timer, at
which point cron wouldn't be installed on a base install unless
there is some other package dependency.

On this list we already saw a post from someone who did not have
cron installed. Initially I thought that was a rather bold
modification by their hosting provider, but it turned out that they
really did have no package that depended upon cron.

So as far as Debian is concerned I do see it as fairly inevitable
that cron soon doesn't get installed on many systems and
increasingly becomes a curiosity, but since it will have to stick
around until the last package stops shipping (only) a cron job,
arguably it still remains in the archive for a very long time yet.

Thanks,
Andy

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where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 16:20 +0100
  Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2024-02-27 16:30 +0100
    Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 20:20 +0100
      Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-28 04:20 +0100
      Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2024-02-28 04:20 +0100
  Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2024-02-27 16:30 +0100
    Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 20:20 +0100
      Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-02-27 20:20 +0100
        Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 20:40 +0100
          Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-27 22:10 +0100
        Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-02-27 21:00 +0100
          Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-27 21:00 +0100
            Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-27 22:20 +0100
            Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-02-28 16:10 +0100
  Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-27 16:40 +0100
    Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 20:20 +0100
  Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-27 16:40 +0100
    Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-28 04:40 +0100
      Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-28 16:40 +0100
        Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-28 17:00 +0100
        Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-29 05:40 +0100
          Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-29 16:20 +0100

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