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Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

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On 27 May 2024 12:23 -0400, from mgrant@grant.org (Michael Grant):
> so I thought I'd try the same process with db5.3, but removing db5.3
> wants to remove a slew of packages:
> 
> # apt reinstall -s libdb5.3/bookworm
> ...
> Selected version '5.3.28+dfsg2-1' (Debian:12.5/stable [amd64]) for 'libdb5.3'
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>   acl apache2-data apache2-utils augeas-lenses avahi-daemon clamav-base colord-data git-man gnupg-l10n gnupg-utils gpg-wks-server guile-3.0-libs ipp-usb libapr1 libaprutil1
>   libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaugeas0 libavahi-core7 libcolorhug2 libdaemon0 libexif12 libgphoto2-l10n libgphoto2-port12 libgudev-1.0-0 libgusb2 libhashkit2 libieee1284-3 libldap-common
>   liblua5.3-0 libnspr4 libnss-mdns libnss3 libopendbx1 libopendbx1-sqlite3 libopendkim11 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler126 libpython2-stdlib libpython3.11 librbl1 librtmp1 libsane-common
>   libsnmp-base libsnmp40 libssh2-1 libvbr2 mailutils-common python2 python2-minimal python3-augeas sane-airscan update-inetd usb.ids
> Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them

"removing db5.3 wants to remove a slew of packages"

No, that's very likely not what apt is telling you. Rather, it's
telling you that the _current_ state of the system is that those
packages were automatically installed (very likely pulled in as
dependencies for other packages) and with the packages _currently_
installed, they are no longer needed as dependencies of anything.
Therefore, apt concludes that they would be safe to remove. I'd say
that that's a dubious conclusion, though; certainly blindly
uninstalling something like libnss3 or libpython* seems unlikely to be
a good idea.

You can confirm this with a bare for example: apt-get --simulate autoremove

I'd also suggest using -V/--verbose-versions/APT::Get::Show-Versions
while you're trying to sort this out, as which specific versions of
each package is involved may very well be very relevant information.

-- 
Michael Kjörling                     🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

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moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-27 16:10 +0200
  Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-27 16:30 +0200
    Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-27 16:40 +0200
    Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-27 17:20 +0200
  Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-27 16:30 +0200
  Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-05-27 17:00 +0200
  Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-05-27 17:10 +0200
    Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-05-27 19:10 +0200
      Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-05-27 20:10 +0200
        Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-05-27 20:50 +0200
        Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Detlef Vollmann <dv@vollmann.ch> - 2024-05-27 22:00 +0200
          Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-05-28 01:30 +0200
        Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-28 05:10 +0200
        Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-28 06:30 +0200
          Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-05-28 14:40 +0200
  Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-05-27 17:40 +0200
    Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-27 18:30 +0200
      Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-05-27 20:10 +0200
        Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-28 12:20 +0200
          Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-28 13:10 +0200
            Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-28 13:10 +0200
              Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-28 14:10 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-28 15:20 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-28 16:30 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-28 19:10 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-28 19:20 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-28 19:30 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-05-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-29 06:10 +0200
          Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-05-28 15:00 +0200
      Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-05-27 22:30 +0200

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