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Re: naming a partition after the fact?

From gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: naming a partition after the fact?
Date 2023-10-01 01:50 +0200
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On 9/30/23 14:16, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 30 Sep 2023 at 09:51:35 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
>> On 9/30/23 07:27, Andy Smith wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 03:28:09AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/23 20:05, Andy Smith wrote:
>>>>> As evidenced by this thread lots of people confuse partition
>>>>> names/labels for filesystem labels, even though they are distinct
>>>>> things, which was why I asked Gene if he really meant a partition
>>>>> label when he wrote that.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes I did Andy.
>>>
>>> In your earlier reply you said you actually meant filesystem label,
>>> and that your query was answered with e2label (which works with
>>> filesystem labels on ext* filesystems).
>>>
>>> So no, when you previously said "partition label" you actually meant
>>> "filesystem lanel".
>>>
>> I assume you meant "label", Andy ;o)
>>
>> Which leads to a question:
>>
>> I used gparted to apply the labels.
>> And I could only apply then if the partition was not mounted.
>>
>> So what is the proper definition of such a label that gparted applies?
>> filesystem or partition?
>>
>> Its seems to point (to me anyway) as two different methods, and
>> therefore is in different locations in the medium. If so, how is the
>> difference determined?
> 
> Partitions on GPT disks have Names≡Labels and UUIDs, sometimes
> referred to as PARTLABELs and PARTUUIDs.
> 
> Filesystems have their own Labels and UUIDs, but what they're called
> may vary by the type of filesystem, and also by the programs you're
> using to manipulate or list them.
> 
> But you also seem to use the names of those programs (like blkid) or
> their functionality (like gparted's) to refer to all these properties,
> which might be why you get them mixed up.
> 
> You can see all the Names and Labels on your filesystems by typing:
> 
>    $ ls -lR /dev/disk/
> 
> where the partitions are under /dev/disk/by-partlabel and
> /dev/disk/by-partuuid, and the filesystems under /dev/disk/by-label
> and /dev/disk/by-uuid. These symlinks point to the kernel's device
> names.
> 
> Note that filesystem LABELs on encrypted ext filesystems won't be
> seen unless they're unlocked, though the UUIDs are.
> 
> BTW the inability of gparted to apply partition labels while their
> filesystems are mounted is self-inflicted. (Presumably, the fields
> are 'greyed out'.) They can be written/changed, but you may be left
> in a confusing state where the kernel and various programs are using
> different values, which may or may not matter. Rebooting will solve
> this, or you can run partprobe or kpartx, neither of which have I tried.
> (I'm not advising this, of course.)
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

Very informative David, thank you.  Take care & stay well.
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-29 21:00 +0200
  Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-29 21:20 +0200
  Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-29 21:20 +0200
    Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-29 22:00 +0200
      Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-29 22:10 +0200
      Re: naming a partition after the fact? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-30 05:40 +0200
        Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-30 15:40 +0200
    Re: naming a partition after the fact? Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-09-29 22:20 +0200
      Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-29 22:40 +0200
        Re: naming a partition after the fact? Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-09-29 23:20 +0200
        Re: naming a partition after the fact? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-30 00:10 +0200
          Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-30 02:10 +0200
            Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-30 09:30 +0200
              Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-30 13:30 +0200
                Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-30 16:00 +0200
                Re: naming a partition after the fact? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-09-30 20:20 +0200
                Re: naming a partition after the fact? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-01 01:50 +0200
            Re: naming a partition after the fact? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-30 17:20 +0200
              Re: naming a partition after the fact? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-09-30 20:20 +0200
        Re: naming a partition after the fact? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-09-30 05:20 +0200
  Re: naming a partition after the fact? Robert Riding <reriding@xmission.com> - 2023-10-01 09:50 +0200
    Re: naming a partition after the fact? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-01 11:30 +0200
      Re: naming a partition after the fact? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-01 17:40 +0200

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