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Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

From Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds
Date 2023-11-16 18:00 +0100
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On 16/11/2023 20:59, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> 
> The question is what suppresses software buttons. If this is libinput
> that suppresses them (just like it suppressed pointer moves when
> typing, while pointer moves are still reported by the kernel), then
> this is unrelated to my issue.

I am unsure if kernel is involved at all. It may be device firmware 
(have you checked for firmware updates?), it may be libinput as the 
device driver. Perhaps libinput may send some commands to touchpad to 
suppress generation of events for some interval of time.

Hypotheses:
- Issues are inherent to this model, so Windows users should suffer as well,
- Hardware issues with particular device.

If a dedicated discussion group exists then participants may be more 
experienced in debugging.

You posted output of xinput and mentioned evtest. I have never used 
"libinput debug-events", however I would try if this tool may provide 
more details.

> BTW, I often accidentally touch the bottom of the touchpad with the
> palm of my hand

I am unsure if you have read relevant parts of libinput docs
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/palm-detection.html

I hope I solved my variant of "buttons does not work for some period of 
time" by dropping a snippet into xorg.conf.d that enables tap-to-click. 
For me it is more convenient than clicks in the bottom area. My 
observation is that hardware click works more reliable if I raise the 
finger for a moment after moving cursor. However in my case period of 
clickbuttons inactivity is usually just a few seconds (unless prolonged 
by repeating clicks). Sometimes clicks are ignored when a finger is at 
the bottom touchpad edge.

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touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-10-31 19:10 +0100
  Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 03:20 +0100
    Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-01 20:20 +0100
      Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-01 23:00 +0100
        Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:50 +0100
          Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-02 20:00 +0100
            Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-02 21:30 +0100
            Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 03:50 +0100
              Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-04 10:10 +0100
                Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 06:10 +0100
                Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-16 15:00 +0100
                Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 18:00 +0100
                Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-17 14:00 +0100
                Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-17 17:20 +0100
  Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 18:10 +0100

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