Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network
Date	2023-05-15 15:40 +0200
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On Mon 15 May 2023 at 12:51:55 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2023-05-13 23:00:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sat 13 May 2023 at 18:18:57 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 5/13/23 15:40, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 08:29:11PM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 01:01:27PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > > > > > Ifconfig has been deprecated in Debian for some years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is *not* deprecated. It is just optional, not essential.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know what Debian's official stance is, but if you do web searches
> > > > for "Linux ifconfig deprecated", you find MANY results.
> > > > 
> > > > <https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ifconfig-vs-ip>:
> > > >      The ip command is the future of network config commands. ifconfig
> > > >      has been officially deprecated for the ip suite, so while many of
> > > >      us are still using the old ways, it is time to put those habits to
> > > >      rest and move on with the world.
> > > 
> > > While you are correct, Greg, the lack of documentation to help with
> > > that transition is staggering. They just thru it on the table and
> > > didn't even say use this instead.
> > 
> > From the way you have quoted, I don't know whether you're complaining
> > specifically about redhat, but as far as Debian is concerned, it was
> > well documented in the Release Notes for stretch:
> > 
> >   5.1.3. Noteworthy obsolete packages
> > 
> >       The following is a list of known and noteworthy obsolete packages
> >       (see Section 4.8, “Obsolete packages” for a description).
> > 
> >       The list of obsolete packages includes:
> > 
> >       [ … ]
> > 
> >         * The net-tools package is being deprecated in favor of
> >           iproute2. See Section 5.3.9, “net-tools will be deprecated in
> >           favor of iproute2” or the Debian reference manual (https://
> >           www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05#
> >           _the_low_level_network_configuration) for more information.
> > 
> >       [ … ]
> > 
> >   5.3.9. net-tools will be deprecated in favor of iproute2
> > 
> >       The net-tools package is no longer part of new installations by
> >       default, since its priority has been lowered from important to
> >       optional.
> [...]
> 
> Under Debian/unstable, i.e. more much recent than stretch:
> 
> zira:~> dpkg -s net-tools
> Package: net-tools
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: important
> [...]
> 
> This is still priority important!

Not at all; AFAICT, the /internal/ Priority of the package has never
changed. (Just guessing: if you installed it, you need it, and better
hang on to it.) But as far as installing it in the first place, that's
the role of the Packages file, where it is optional (plus you might
install it as a dependency).

Cheers,
David.

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Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 11:40 +0200
  Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 11:50 +0200
    Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-13 12:00 +0200
      Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-13 12:10 +0200
        Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:20 +0200
          Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 12:20 +0200
            Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 12:30 +0200
            Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:30 +0200
              Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 12:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network jeremy ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 12:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-05-13 14:30 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 15:00 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 18:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2023-05-13 20:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 20:30 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-13 21:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-05-13 22:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-14 00:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-14 06:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-14 07:00 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-14 16:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-15 13:00 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-15 15:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-15 16:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-15 17:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-15 17:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-15 17:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-15 17:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-16 06:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-16 11:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-16 15:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-14 18:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-14 06:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-14 18:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-14 19:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-14 23:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-14 20:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-14 23:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-15 06:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-05-14 18:30 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-14 20:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-14 21:00 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-15 06:40 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-15 07:20 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-15 13:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-15 18:10 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-05-15 18:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-15 19:00 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-14 20:50 +0200
                Gene's avahi bogeyman is not real (Was Re: how to find out  regdomain/country of wifi network) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-05-14 23:30 +0200
                Re: Gene's avahi bogeyman is not real (Was Re: how to find  outregdomain/country of wifi network) gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-15 00:30 +0200
                Re: Gene's avahi bogeyman is not real (Was Re: how to find  outregdomain/country of wifi network) Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2023-05-15 09:50 +0200
                Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2023-05-15 22:20 +0200
          Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 12:40 +0200
      Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:10 +0200
        Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-13 12:40 +0200
        Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-13 16:50 +0200
          Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-14 07:00 +0200
  Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network jeremy ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2023-05-13 12:00 +0200
    Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 12:10 +0200
    Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-13 12:10 +0200
      Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-13 16:50 +0200
        Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-14 07:00 +0200
  Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-05-13 12:00 +0200
  Re: how to find out regdomain/country of wifi network gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-13 16:40 +0200

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