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Re: email lacks sender address

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: email lacks sender address
Date 2022-04-27 14:30 +0200
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:05:46AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is 
> exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and 
> $LOCALHOST. Is this so?
> 
> These values are present:
> 
>   $ nano /etec/mailname
>   lenin.histomat.net

Obvious typo.  This means you are not pasting results directly from a
terminal into an email.  Instead, you're re-typing them, and making
tons of errors in the process.  That makes it super hard to know what
is actually real.

>   $ echo $LOGNAME
>   haines

You mentioned $LOCALHOST before, and now suddenly it's $LOGNAME.

> However I'm not clear whether the field is empthy or that what us 
> in it field is not owned by me. I have popcorn installed, and it has 

popcon, not popcorn.

> root send a priodidic message. The mail server does not recognize 
> the root@histomats.net address. It sends me this message:

*Which* mail server?  Who is "it"?

>   A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>   recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>     survey@popcon.devuan.org
>     host mail.guardedhost.com [216.239.133.245]
>     SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined sending data block:
>     553 5.7.1 <root@histomat.net>: Sender address rejected:
>     not owned by user brownh@historicalmaterialism.info
> 
>     Reporting-MTA: dns; lenin.histomat.net

So, this message was generated by your own MTA running on your own
computer, after the message was rejected by the receiving MTA.

There are many things I do not understand in this error message.  For
starters, who or what is "host mail.guardedhost.com [216.239.133.245]"
and what do they have to do with anything?

unicorn:~$ host -t mx popcon.devuan.org
popcon.devuan.org mail is handled by 10 mx.devuan.org.
unicorn:~$ host mx.devuan.org
mx.devuan.org has address 141.95.83.167

There's no mention of mail.guardedhost.com or 216.239.133.245 in DNS
at all.

It sounds like something on *your* end.  Maybe you've configured your
MTA to use a smarthost, and mail.guardedhost.com is your smarthost?
And if so, it's refusing to relay mail from you as long as you claim
to be root@histomat.net instead of brownh@historicalmaterialism.info
or something.

Also, you appear not to be using Debian, so... all bets are off.

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email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-24 22:10 +0200
  Re: email lacks sender address Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2022-04-24 23:40 +0200
  Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 00:40 +0200
    Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-25 05:40 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 06:40 +0200
        Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-25 17:50 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 18:50 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 19:00 +0200
            Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-25 21:10 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2022-04-26 11:20 +0200
            Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-26 15:30 +0200
              Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-26 17:10 +0200
              Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-26 22:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-04-27 11:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 11:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 14:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 14:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2022-04-27 18:20 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 23:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 14:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 16:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 17:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 17:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 19:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 20:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 23:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 23:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 22:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-28 07:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 20:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 21:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 23:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 22:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 22:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-28 17:00 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-28 19:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-28 19:20 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-29 01:50 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-27 17:20 +0200
            Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-27 17:30 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-04-25 14:10 +0200
        Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 16:20 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-25 16:30 +0200
            Re: email lacks sender address David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-25 17:10 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-25 16:40 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-04-26 17:20 +0200
        Re: email lacks sender address Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-04-26 17:40 +0200
  Re: email lacks sender address 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-25 03:20 +0200
    Re: email lacks sender address Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2022-04-25 03:50 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-25 06:50 +0200
    Re: email lacks sender address Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-04-25 05:40 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-25 07:00 +0200
      Re: email lacks sender address Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-25 14:50 +0200
        Re: email lacks sender address 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-26 02:50 +0200
          Re: email lacks sender address Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 18:10 +0200
            Re: email lacks sender address Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-04-27 03:10 +0200
              Re: email lacks sender address Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-04-27 03:20 +0200
              Re: email lacks sender address Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-04-27 20:40 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED) Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2022-05-08 18:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-05-08 19:10 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-09 02:50 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-05-09 03:30 +0200
                Re: email lacks sender address (SOLVED) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-09 04:40 +0200

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