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Re: changed file while editing

From Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: changed file while editing
Date 2021-12-12 10:00 +0100
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On Sb, 11 dec 21, 23:17:43, mick crane wrote:
> 
> > > No comment on that, as I don't use a DE.
> Window manager, desktop environment,X I get confused about those.
> You don't have any of the desktop stuff but still can run a browser and that
> ?
> I think I'd like that better.
> Is there stuff you can delete to get that sort of function or need make a
> new installation?

Think of X as the graphical infrastructure required to run any sort of 
GUI program[1].

It is possible to start X and a GUI program directly from the linux text 
console. When you close the program X will shut down as well. If that 
program is something like a terminal emulator you could start more 
programs from within it, but you will have only very limited means to 
switch between or move and resize the windows of various applications.

A window manager is the program responsible for actually managing your 
windows (placement, size, etc.). Using X without one makes sense only in 
special situations, e.g. you only need to start one single application, 
typically in full screen, and do the rest only from within that 
application (Kodi is a good example for this).

Most window managers are pretty bare (the 'do one thing and do it well' 
philosophy), so additional programs will be required for various panels, 
clocks, menus, etc. Starting all of these (in the right order) is what 
is typically referred to as an 'X session'.

A desktop environment is basically just a (more or less) integrated 
collection of all these tools + file manager, terminal emulator, etc. 
Some also add complex background services to e.g. index all your 
pictures.


[1] let's forget about Wayland for the moment.

Hope this explains,
Andrei
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changed file while editing mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 23:40 +0100
  Re: changed file while editing David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-12-11 02:20 +0100
    Re: changed file while editing mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2021-12-11 02:40 +0100
  Re: changed file while editing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-12-11 04:10 +0100
    Re: changed file while editing David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-12-11 07:40 +0100
      Re: changed file while editing David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-12-11 20:00 +0100
        Re: changed file while editing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-12-16 21:40 +0100
        Re: changed file while editing David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-12-17 04:40 +0100
      Re: changed file while editing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-12-11 20:50 +0100
        Re: changed file while editing "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-12-12 00:10 +0100
          Re: changed file while editing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-12-12 00:30 +0100
            Re: changed file while editing The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-12-12 00:30 +0100
              Re: changed file while editing David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-12-12 01:40 +0100
              WM focus, was Re: changed file while editing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-12-12 03:00 +0100
                Re: WM focus, was Re: changed file while editing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-12-12 09:30 +0100
            Re: changed file while editing "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-12-12 18:40 +0100
        Re: changed file while editing Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-12 10:00 +0100

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