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Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

From Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?
Date 2022-03-08 22:00 +0100
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Emanuel Berg writes:

> Linux-Fan wrote:
>
> >>> CPU power doubled to account for short-time bursts.
> >>
> >> Double it, that something one should do?
> >
> > In Intel world, yes :) In AMD world it seems to be slightly
> > better, cf.:
> > https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16220/119126.png
> >
> > The TDP is given in the labels whereas the actual max power
> > consumption observed is in the diagram. It seems that for
> > AMD systems, the most extreme factor observed there is
> > 143.22/105 = 1.364 [...]
>
> OK, included ...
>
> > SSD highly depends on the model. No need to argue for one
> > general figure over the other. I think my SSD is specified
> > 14W, but it is large and not the "newest" :)
>
> OK, it says the SSD and RAM are
>
>   Corsair Vengeance LPX · DDR4 · 2*8GB=16GB · 3600Mhz
>
>   250GB Kingston KC 2000 (SSD/NVMe/M.2)
>
> if one can find exact digits, that's optimal, but what do you
> search for to find out? I mean in general? The model name
> and ... ?

... datasheet
... power consumption

This does not yield anything ineteresting for the RAM here, but for the SSD  
we get a useful datasheet this way:

[v] https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/SKC2000_us.pdf

Which indicates on page 2 that the max. power consumption is 7W under heavy  
write loads.

I get most of my estimates derived from the figures of a PC magazine I  
regularly read :)

> Anyway, the computation now lands at 307 W.
>
>   device  model/category                     max W   note
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   CPU     AMD Ryzen 3, 4 cores                89     exact plus extra   [i]
>   fans     80 mm (3K RPM)                      9     3*3W =  9W        [ii]
>           120 mm (2K RPM)                     12     2*6W = 12W        [ii]
>   GPU     geforce-gt-710                      19     exact            [iii]
>   mb      Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming AM4   101     exact excl CPU    [iv]
>   RAM     DDR3 (1.5V)                          3     actually a DDR4   [ii]
>   SSD                                          2.8                     [ii]
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------------

3W is for one module per [ii] but further above you write 2x8GB so why not  
at least compute it at 6W? Also, SSD could go up to 7W per datasheet [v].  
For actual PSU sizes this will end up at 350W min. which is OK I guess.

> total, with +30% wiggle room:
> (ceiling (* 1.3 (+ (* (/ 143.22 105) 65)
>                    (* 3 3) (* 2 6)
>                    19
>                    (- 166.2 65)
>                    3
>                    2.8) )) ; 307 W
>
>   [i] https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-3200g
>       https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16220/119126.png
>  [ii] https://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html
> [iii] https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-710.c1990
>  [iv] https://www.techporn.ph/review-asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-am4- 
> motherboard/
>       https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uploads/ASUS-ROG-Strix-B450-F- 
> Gaming-Benchmark-1.jpg

[...]

HTH and YMMV
Linux-Fan

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  Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-04 16:40 +0100
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                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-03-05 03:00 +0100
                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 09:00 +0100
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  Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-03-04 16:50 +0100
    Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-04 17:10 +0100
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            Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 00:00 +0100
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                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 01:30 +0100
                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2022-03-05 20:30 +0100
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                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-08 20:00 +0100
                Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2022-03-08 22:00 +0100
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              Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-03-05 16:10 +0100
        Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-04 23:00 +0100
  Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-03-05 00:50 +0100
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      Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 01:40 +0100
      Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-03-05 02:00 +0100
    Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 01:50 +0100
      Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-03-05 02:10 +0100
        Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian? Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-05 02:30 +0100
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