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Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
Date 2022-03-01 15:50 +0100
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On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:11:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de [2022-03-01 07:35:20] wrote:
> > I see.  As others have already noted in this thread, your WiFi PSK
> > isn't usually a high-value secret; besides, if someone has access
> > to your computer, she typically has more valuable things to look
> > for.
> 
> OTOH, by putting barriers only at those places where we can think
> of attack scenarios we end up with rampant security issues, because
> attacks are more diverse/creative than we can ever be.

Definitely. 

I think the most important thing to keep around is "context matters", which
more or less corresponds to what secuity buffs call "threat model". What
kind of stuff are you trying to defend against?

 - Is it only your home's access point's secret key what is at stake, or
   your friend's, workplace's, etc?

 - Are you defending against your computer "at rest" being stolen (in
   which case perhaps a full disk encryption might Just Do (TM) or are
   you defending against some javascript-vectored trojan coming in
   via your browser (or some macro through some *cough* text processing
   software)?

And so on. Security can be very amusing :-)

This permission based securisation carries over many things from the
good ol' times of real multiuser systems. Now of course it's one road
bump more: should my browser ask me for my password I'd tend to kill
it right away; most folks wouldn't be that cruel :-)

Cheers
-- 
t

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What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-02-28 19:50 +0100
  Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-02-28 20:20 +0100
    Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-02-28 21:00 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2022-02-28 21:30 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-02-28 22:50 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-02-28 21:30 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-02-28 22:50 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2022-03-01 07:40 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 13:20 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-01 15:30 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 16:00 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-03-01 15:20 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-01 15:50 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-01 13:20 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-01 13:30 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 15:40 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-01 15:50 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-01 15:40 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-01 15:50 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-01 16:00 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-01 16:40 +0100
                wikis: moin-moin : plain text (was: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-03-03 14:50 +0100
                Re: wikis: moin-moin : plain text (was: Re: What should I put inside  the file called wlan0?) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-03 15:00 +0100
                Re: wikis: moin-moin : plain text (was: Re: What should I put inside  the file called wlan0?) Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-03 15:50 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 17:30 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-02 09:10 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-02 19:00 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 09:00 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-03 12:30 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 19:30 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-03 19:50 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 20:00 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-03 17:00 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 19:50 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-03 21:00 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-08 16:20 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 19:40 +0100
              Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-03 19:50 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-03 20:00 +0100
                Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-03 20:00 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-08 16:20 +0100
  Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-02-28 21:10 +0100
    Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-02-28 21:20 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 00:20 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-01 06:10 +0100
          Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Markus Schönhaber <debian-user@list-post.mks-mail.de> - 2022-03-01 09:00 +0100
            Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-01 12:10 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-01 07:50 +0100
  Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2022-02-28 22:20 +0100
    Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-02-28 23:50 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 00:50 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-03-01 10:30 +0100
        Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2022-03-01 22:20 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2022-03-01 06:10 +0100
    Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-03-01 00:50 +0100
      Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2022-03-01 10:50 +0100

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