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Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

From "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: about 10th new install of bullseye
Date 2022-02-19 12:40 +0100
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Hi Gene,

If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV
transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist.
You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power down / reduced
power operation and then you'd check - power supplies, feeder cables, hot
spots on cables - whatever. Divide and conquer- working back to a baseline
of known working conditions and eliminating causes.

My suggestion to you of a reinstall is partly designed to get you out of this
"X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state.

Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard
doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd
have brltty with every install on this laptop.

Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using tar.gz and preserving permissions. Start with the .iso that includes firmware - the unofficial one.

Build back slowly - do an expert text mode install if you can. Then add your
Trinity desktop - I don't think any of us can help you there, since we don't
run trinity.

Check and you should find that brltty isn't installed at all. Then re-add thingsgradually until you have the working system you want. Document it - write down
the steps you take / copy configuration files you change.

That will also reveal logging / login slowdowns or whatever caused by 
individual devices as you add them back. Keep a list as you go.

That's the counsel of perfection: alternatively:

apt rdepends brltty gives me:

me@mymachine:~$ apt rdepends brltty
brltty
Reverse Depends:
  Suggests: speechd-el (>= 3.7.2)
  Depends: brltty-espeak (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
  Suggests: orca
  Depends: brltty-x11 (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
  Depends: brltty-speechd (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
  Depends: brltty-flite (= 6.3+dfsg-1+deb11u1)

You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those packages and
see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get out for you
but a clear approach, written down so that you can remember where you got
to will be very helpful.

If all else fails, you can then share it with the list and say "I got to
step X with no problems, then Y happened - help me out here" and we'll 
have some better idea. We all jib at you for being vague/not indluding
details but otherwise it is all just guesswork for the usual folk that 
hang out here.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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Re: about 10th new install of bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-02-19 05:50 +0100
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-02-19 12:40 +0100
  Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-02-19 21:10 +0100
    Re: about 10th new install of bullseye john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2022-02-20 07:50 +0100
      Re: about 10th new install of bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-02-21 05:00 +0100

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