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Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes?

From max <maxwillb@mailfence.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes?
Date 2022-01-24 05:30 +0100
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January 22, 2022 3:51:28 PM CET "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> wrote:

> Debian does fix security problems 

The question is when: 0 days or 6 months after the CVE announcement? I mean, if you need 6 months, that's fine. Just don't claim that you do it in 0 days. That's dishonest. Does this make sense?

> Debian can feel free to set its own ratings 

But you can't call them "NVD severity", because NVD refers to the National Vulnerability Database. They do their own analysis of vulnerabilities, that some people find trustworthy. You can't just make up your own numbers and claim that they are the NVD ratings. That name is taken.

> You use the term falsehood - as if [all of] Debian were consistently lying to all its users. 

Debian is an organization. It's publishing certain statements on its web site that are false. How the misdeeds of an organization are shared among its members is an interesting philosophical question, but I don't believe I opined on it.


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Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? max  <maxwillb@mailfence.com> - 2022-01-22 14:30 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2022-01-22 14:50 +0100
    Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? max  <maxwillb@mailfence.com> - 2022-01-24 04:50 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2022-01-22 15:30 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-01-22 16:00 +0100
    Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? max  <maxwillb@mailfence.com> - 2022-01-24 05:30 +0100
      Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-24 07:10 +0100
        Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-01-24 07:10 +0100
          Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-24 07:40 +0100
      Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-24 22:50 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-01-22 20:10 +0100
    Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-01-22 20:30 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-01-22 23:40 +0100
    Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-23 11:30 +0100
      Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? max  <maxwillb@mailfence.com> - 2022-01-24 06:20 +0100
        Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-24 22:50 +0100
          Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-01-25 04:20 +0100
  Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? max  <maxwillb@mailfence.com> - 2022-01-24 07:50 +0100
    Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-25 10:00 +0100
      Re: Why is Debian not telling the truth about its security fixes? Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-25 10:40 +0100

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