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Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org?

From Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org?
Date 2022-01-19 15:40 +0100
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, Andy Smith wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 08:23:15AM +0100, Andreas Ames wrote:
>> I am sitting behind a firewall, in my case esp. ZScaler.  I am wondering,
>> what the best way is to whitelist "deb.debian.org" for package management.
>
> I think you may be going about things the wrong way.
>
> I don't know what ZScaler is, but if it's some sort of firewall that
> even disallows your outbound connections to HTTP sites then it seems
> that you want a very secure environment.
>
> deb.debian.org is used to give you a reasonably geographically close
> mirror and to provide resilience when some backend mirror goes away.
> These goals seem at odds with wanting to block outbound HTTP access
> to arbitrary sites.
>
> If you have a secure network that must not be able to connect out to
> arbitrary web sites, I think you probably should be running a local
> proxy or Debian mirror outside of that network, then allowing your
> secure network to use that and that alone.
>
>> Do I have to whitelist individually all mirror sites that back the CDN?  If
>> so, is there an up-to-date list of the hosts backing "deb.debian.org"?
>
> Most CDNs don't list all of their own frontend caches anywhere. I
> don't know if there is some exception for Fastly's support of
> deb.debian.org but even if there was I don't think I'd trust it to
> stay accurate over time.
>

You cannot even guarantee that the same ip won't be used for more than
one site. I had hopes that ipv6 might sort this out but I think there's
a push to keep multiple sites on one ip to stop people working out the
site from the ip.

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How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org? Andreas Ames <andreas.0815.qwertz@gmail.com> - 2022-01-19 08:30 +0100
  Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-01-19 10:20 +0100
  Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2022-01-19 15:30 +0100
    Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-01-19 15:40 +0100
    Re: How to best whitelist CDN deb.debian.org? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2022-01-19 15:50 +0100

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