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Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org

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On Du, 10 oct 21, 22:18:38, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> although i seem not to be worth to be targeted by our bounce assassin,
> my mail provider and bendel.debian.org are at odds enough to produce
> a real bounce message, which then causes a warning mail from
> listmaster@lists.debian.org .
> 
> I am trying to make sense out of the given bounce report
> 
>   https://lists.debian.org/bounces/79gUBBa56gHKY3wtHzNKdg

Yeah, got the same from listmaster, for the same exact message (I 
receive list mail via GMX too).
 
> It is hard to distinguish the hearsay by bendel.debian.org from the
> message parts which come from my provider's server mx00.emig.gmx.net.
> Especially i wonder from where bendel takes the association to my
> mail address (and which mentionings show its conclusions about my
> address).
> 
> Whatever, the reason for the bounce is that GMX accuses debian-user
> of not meeting its requirements
>   https://www.gmx.net/mail/senderguidelines
> All points there look like they are not volatile problems but rather
> persistent ones. But listmaster@lists.debian.org wrote i had
> >  1 bounce out of 68 mails in one day (1%, kick-score is 80%)
> So why did the other 67 succeed ?

My uneducated guess would be that GMX is applying additional 
undocumented criteria when deciding whether a message is spam or not, 
e.g. it might be that they didn't like the From: or something else 
entirely.

In any case (as far as I understand) bouncing is wrong, because it can 
be abused by real spammers.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-10 22:20 +0200
  Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-10 22:50 +0200
  Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2021-10-11 03:10 +0200
    Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-11 10:20 +0200
    Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-10-11 14:00 +0200
    Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org Cord Beermann <cord@debian.org> - 2021-10-13 11:20 +0200
  Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-10-11 09:50 +0200
  Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 12:50 +0200

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