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On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 9:04 AM David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon 04 Oct 2021 at 21:16:06 (-0400), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Monday 04 October 2021 07:55:25 pm David Wright wrote:
>
> > > It would help people trying to follow what you are doing just to
> confirm at each stage which version you're now running.
> > > I /think/ you've got as far as stretch.
> >
> > Yes,  I wanted to get the issues that I was seeing resolved before I
> went ahead and proceeded with the rest of the upgrades.  At this point I've
> copied things from the laptop (which got very flaky on me) back to the
> workstation and I am doing my mail there,  like I used to.  The font is too
> damn small,  though.
> >
> > > So the main things to confirm as working are the specific points
> mentioned in the respective Release Notes. In stretch that would
> > > be, for example, the 4.9 kernel is finding everything,
> >
> > About the only issue that I've noticed after this stuff all getting
> fixed is that there's something up with the sound.  Given the details of
> what advice I saw someone else getting,  I have a few things to look at.
> The virtualbox OS complained about it too.  :-)
>
> I can't see the point unless you depend on, say, a screen reader to be
> able to move forward at all. After all, how long are you intending to
> run stretch for?
>
> > > that X may be running as a user (rather than root) on the console it's
> started from,
> >
> > I'm not sure I see the concern here.
>
> An issue that caught some people out was finding the X server log,
> as it had to move out of /var/log/ (users don't have permission),
> and into a "hidden" directory, ~/.local/share/xorg/. Running
> root-owned applications is different, and you can get permissions
> problems with opening devices. Unusual though.
>
> > > and that your ethernet or wireless connectivity is still good.
> (Changes were made to the kernel device naming.)
> >
> > Ethernet is working fine here,  as evidenced by the fact that I'm moving
> lots of data back and forth (32GB for this virtualbox stuff ferinstance)
> and that I'm doing my mail on this system now.  If there had been any
> issues with that I sure would've been jumping all over it,  as I tend to
> use networking rather heavily.  And there is no wireless on this machine.
> >
> > > Those are just a few I recall, but note they all relate to the OS
> rather than details in configuring third-party applications.
> > > Once that's done, time to read the next set of Release Notes. Note
> that even things like the best tool (apt-get or aptitude) to
> > > upgrade with may vary from release to release which, remember, are
> normally separated by a couple of years of tool development.
> >
> > I saw a couple of references that stated that aptitude had been
> recommeded earlier but that apt was now a better choice.
>
> Yes, I think apt is recommended for an interactive upgrade.
>
> > So we'll see how it goes from here.  My upgrade path for this step went
> like this:
> >
> > apt-get autoremove
> > edit the sources.list file replacing jessie with stretch
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get upgrade
> > apt-get dist-upgrade
> >
> > And then reboot,  and see how well things work.  Or maybe reboot a
> couple of times...
>
> Yes, apt-get was recommended for upgrading to stretch. Note however
> that if you perform your next upgrades with apt, as recommended,
> some of the command names (like dist-upgrade) will differ in apt.
>

I thought "dist-upgrade" is used to upgrade packages that need a "version
change" (like, sometimes the Kernel).  Is this recent (i.e. Stretch?)

Kenneth Parker

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unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-02 18:00 +0200
  Re: unhappy upgrade "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-02 18:30 +0200
    Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 17:10 +0200
      Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 19:20 +0200
        Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 19:30 +0200
  Re: unhappy upgrade Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-02 18:40 +0200
    Re: unhappy upgrade "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-02 20:20 +0200
      Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 +0200
    Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 18:20 +0200
  Re: unhappy upgrade David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-02 20:40 +0200
    Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 +0200
      Re: unhappy upgrade David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-03 20:10 +0200
  Re: unhappy upgrade Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 06:20 +0200
    Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-03 18:50 +0200
      Re: unhappy upgrade Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-03 19:00 +0200
        Re: unhappy upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0200
      Re: unhappy upgrade Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:50 +0200
        Re: unhappy upgrade Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-04 02:00 +0200
          Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-04 21:30 +0200
            Re: unhappy upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-05 02:00 +0200
              Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-05 03:20 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-05 15:10 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 16:50 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-05 18:20 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 07:00 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-05 17:00 +0200
                Re: unhappy upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-05 18:20 +0200
        Re: unhappy upgrade "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-04 20:50 +0200
          Re: unhappy upgrade Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 05:40 +0200

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