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Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau
Date 2021-01-22 01:30 +0100
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On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 01:14:31 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> David Wright composed on 2021-01-20 23:58 (UTC-0600):
> > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >> When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, not a
> >> workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of
> >> multitasking. My computers are general purpose tools for getting work done. Most
> >> videos are primarily time devouring entertainers, amusement.
> 
> >> a (as first letter as affects meaning of word): anti or not
> 
> >> muse: v: to think or ruminate upon.
> 
> >> thus:
> 
> >> amuse: literally not think or unthink
> 
> > Ouch. It's derived from French: the à means to/at, not anti/without.
> 
> In many cases yes. It has several others as well, such as in avocation. In others,
> such as amuse, clearly not to or at:
> 
> "a- (3)
> 
> prefix meaning "not, without," from Greek a-, an- "not" (the "alpha privative"),
> from PIE root *ne- "not" (source also of English un-).

Quite simply, you arbitrarily picked the wrong choice (3) and skipped over:

  a- (1)
  […]
  In words from Romanic languages, often it represents reduced forms
  of Latin ad "to, toward; for" (see ad-), or ab "from, away, off"
  (see ab-); both of which by about 7c. had been reduced to a in the
  ancestor of Old French. In a few cases it represents Latin ex.

> In words from Greek, such as abysmal, adamant, amethyst; also partly nativized as
> a prefix of negation (asexual, amoral, agnostic). The ancient alpha privatum,
> denoting want or absence."
> https://www.etymonline.com/word/a-

On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 10:14:03 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > https://www.etymonline.com/word/amuse states that this is the "to, at"
> > prefix from Latin in a sense of "causing to", not the "not, without" one
> > from Greek.
> 
> Funnily [oops, I guess I meant "amusingly"] enough, the two end up
> meaning kind of the same: in that what happens is that attention is
> diverted, so when you "amuse", you cause thinking of something which
> prevents thinking of what you'd have been thinking of if it weren't for
> that amusement.

But that *is* just a fanciful rationalisation of a false dichotomy.
I can find no hint of negation in the etymology of amuse.

Cheers,
David.

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