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Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller.

From Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller.
Date 2021-01-04 14:40 +0100
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On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 09:30:08AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>On Du, 03 ian 21, 19:53:07, Michael Stone wrote:
>> Applications which need more data integrity
>> guarantees generally implement some sort of journalling and/or use atomic
>> filesystem operations. (E.g., write a temporary file, flush/sync,
>> rename--that guarantees either the old file or the new file will be present,
>> but not a partially written file.)
>
>Unless I'm mistaken, this is somewhat similar to how copy-on-write works
>for every write, except that the copy-on-write is done at block level
>and with the added benefits that unchanged blocks are kept as they are
>(less writes) and may even be shared between files (using less space).

COW is a different, somewhat related, thing. In itself it isn't 
sufficient for an application to be assured about the on-disk state at a 
particular time without using additional filesystem operations beyond a 
simple write(). In practice, those operations are a subset of what's 
necessary for other filesystems and most applications concerned about 
data integrity are going to implement the full set. (Few people want 
filesystem-specific applications.)

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recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-01 19:10 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-01-01 20:00 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-01-01 20:00 +0100
    Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2021-01-01 20:40 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-01-01 21:10 +0100
    Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-02 09:30 +0100
      Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-02 09:50 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2021-01-01 21:20 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-02 09:20 +0100
    Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-01-02 10:50 +0100
      Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 12:30 +0100
        Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2021-01-02 17:10 +0100
          Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-01-02 17:50 +0100
        Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-01-02 22:40 +0100
          Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 10:30 +0100
            Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-01-03 22:50 +0100
              Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 08:30 +0100
            Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-01-03 23:20 +0100
            Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2021-01-04 02:00 +0100
              Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 08:40 +0100
                Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2021-01-04 14:40 +0100
    Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2021-01-02 12:50 +0100
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        Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2021-01-02 17:30 +0100
        Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid  controller. Alain D D Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk> - 2021-01-02 18:40 +0100
  Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 10:00 +0100

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