Re: mdadm usage

From	The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: mdadm usage
Date	2021-01-02 14:10 +0100
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On 2021-01-02 at 06:49, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Sb, 02 ian 21, 06:28:24, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-01-02 at 05:58, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> 
>>> How many package versions do you keep around?

>>> My laptop is indeed on a 30 GiB partition, but using only 14 GiB.
>>> I do (auto)clean the package cache more or less regularly though,
>>> even on unstable installs.
>> 
>> That's a bit more sensible, although it still strikes me as fairly 
>> limiting in terms of how much can be installed.
> 
> With all packages I need already installed I'm barely using 50%. How
> is that limiting?

In that you don't know what you may turn out to need to install later,
or how big that's going to be. I know of some *programs* which are
multiple gigabytes in size (though to be fair, they're all A: for
Windows or Mac, B: games, or C: both), and I'd hate to discover the need
to install them and not have enough capacity to do so.

ISTR having also once run out of space on / because of filling up /usr
(etc.) due to installed packages, again on a previous machine, and I
*definitely* don't want to risk doing *that* again.

>>> It's probably best to define what I mean by "installation". For
>>> me this means that if I were to install the same set of packages
>>> on a blank partition I would end up with about the same size.
>> 
>> That's roughly the definition I was using, yes.
>> 
>>> 100 GiB (excluding /home and other "data" storages) should be 
>>> plenty.
>> 
>> Yeah, if you'd given that figure initially I probably wouldn't have
>> even replied to begin with. It's less than I'd allocate, given the
>> disk sizes I have to work with, but it's well within sane ranges
>> for a sysadmin to choose even by my standards.
> 
> I meant "plenty" as in "almost wasteful" ;)
> 
> But then again, I'm used to getting by with limited storage space. I
>  could probably fit all my data in 1 TiB.

Whereas I'm more the pack-rat type. Even excluding the redundant copies
that I haven't properly unified from various past system-migration and
data-recovery scenarios, I have multiple TB of total data, some of it
decades old and irreplaceable.

Though the large majority of that isn't installed-system, it's
user-data, i.e. (quite properly) stored under /home.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

Thread

mdadm usage "Thomas A. Anderson" <thomas.anderson@little-beak.com> - 2020-12-29 08:10 +0100
  Re: mdadm usage Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-12-29 08:30 +0100
    Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-29 09:40 +0100
  Re: mdadm usage Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 08:50 +0100
    Re: mdadm usage basti <mailinglist@unix-solution.de> - 2020-12-29 09:40 +0100
      Re: mdadm usage "Thomas A. Anderson" <thomas.anderson@little-beak.com> - 2020-12-29 21:40 +0100
        Re: mdadm usage Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-12-30 00:00 +0100
        Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 02:00 +0100
          Re: mdadm usage Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 02:30 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 09:20 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2020-12-30 14:40 +0100
              Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-30 15:00 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2021-01-02 14:40 +0100
              mdadm usage Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 15:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 15:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 21:50 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 22:40 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 23:20 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-31 00:30 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-12-31 13:30 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-31 15:20 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-31 15:30 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-12-31 15:50 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-31 16:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-12-31 16:20 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-31 16:40 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-01 23:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 09:40 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 10:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 11:30 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-01-02 14:50 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 16:40 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-01-02 18:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-02 10:40 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 12:00 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-02 12:30 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 12:50 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 13:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-02 14:20 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-02 14:10 +0100
                Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 12:50 +0100
          Re: mdadm usage "Thomas A. Anderson" <thomas.anderson@little-beak.com> - 2020-12-30 11:50 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 13:30 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-12-30 13:30 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-30 15:00 +0100
            Re: mdadm usage deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 22:10 +0100
              Re: mdadm usage Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2020-12-31 00:00 +0100
        Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 09:10 +0100
      Re: mdadm usage Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-12-30 04:00 +0100
  Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-29 14:20 +0100
    Re: mdadm usage mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-12-29 16:40 +0100
      Re: mdadm usage "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2020-12-29 20:40 +0100
      Re: mdadm usage Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-30 14:40 +0100
        Re: mdadm usage The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-30 14:50 +0100
        Re: mdadm usage mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 18:00 +0100
          Re: mdadm usage Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 19:40 +0100

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