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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 05:09:47PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
>Michael Stone (12020-12-23):
>> No, network speeds are traditionally measured in bits because networks
>> transferred data in bits and telcos dealt with bits, and they sold and
>> billed bits. Computer internals were measured in bytes and words because
>> they transferred data in bytes and words. Some people do now talk about
>> network speeds for computers in byte units, but you're really just swapping
>> one source of confusion for another when you do that. (There's an immense
>> amount of existing tooling for network-related information that already uses
>> bits, so everything that decides bytes are better for networking requires
>> conversion when dealing with most other networking tools even if it
>> eliminates conversion when dealing with filesystem or memory tools.) There
>> isn't one "right answer" that magically simplifies communications.
>
>I read this paragraph as the defense of a cargo cult.

You may certainly read it as you wish, nevertheless I'll continue to 
explain why things are measured in different ways in different domains 
without resorting to baseless conspiracy theories. I'm also mostly 
interested in communicating with actual people, so regardless of whether 
you believe you have a superior approach that is more logical than the 
way language is used by other people is irrelevant to me--I find it more 
productive to be as clear as possible within the bounds of common
usage than to insist that everyone else should change. YMMV, have fun 
with your crusade.

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transfer speed data mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 02:00 +0100
  Re: transfer speed data Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 02:40 +0100
  Re: transfer speed data Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-12-23 02:50 +0100
  Re: transfer speed data Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2020-12-23 02:50 +0100
    Re: transfer speed data Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2020-12-23 03:00 +0100
      Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-23 16:10 +0100
        Re: transfer speed data Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2020-12-23 16:40 +0100
          Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-23 17:00 +0100
            Re: transfer speed data Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2020-12-23 17:20 +0100
              Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-23 18:40 +0100
  Re: transfer speed data Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-12-23 05:00 +0100
    Re: transfer speed data Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-12-23 11:00 +0100
      Re: transfer speed data Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 15:50 +0100
        Re: transfer speed data Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-12-23 17:10 +0100
        Re: transfer speed data David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-23 18:50 +0100
          Re: transfer speed data Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 19:20 +0100
            Re: transfer speed data David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-24 02:30 +0100
              Re: transfer speed data Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-24 10:10 +0100
                Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-24 17:10 +0100
      Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-23 16:20 +0100
        Re: transfer speed data Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-12-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: transfer speed data Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-24 17:10 +0100
    Re: transfer speed data deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 12:20 +0100
  Re: transfer speed data George Shuklin <george.shuklin@gmail.com> - 2020-12-23 23:00 +0100

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