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Re: Instructions for command line usage of WiFi.

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On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:18:43 +0300
Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:31:55AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:43:00 +0300
> > Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 09:19:08AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:42:59 +0300
> > > > Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 03:06:59PM -0800, peter@easthope.ca wrote:
> > > > > > This is the only oddity evident after ifup wlxa0f3c10a28f7.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   DHCPDISCOVER on wlxa0f3c10a28f7 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
> > > > > >   send_packet: No buffer space available
> > > > > >   dhclient.c:2445: Failed to send 300 byte long packet over wlxa0f3c10a28f7 interface.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nevertheless, after a few more lines from DHCP the link works.
> > > > > > Any ideas about buffer space?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The kernel has no free RAM to queue a packet or that Tp-Link device
> > > > > you're is using low-quality kernel module. Happens with Tp-Link, but
> > > > 
> > > > With TP-Link? Aren't they just using other manufacturers' chipsets?
> > > 
> > > The hardware is definitely OEM'ed. The firmware is most likely theirs.
> > 
> > Really? I thought that network drivers load firmware based solely on
> > the chipset.
> 
> It's more complicated than this. For instance, to identify a NIC chip
> you need something that responds to said identification.
> 
> To put it simple, to load a firmware you need something to accept it.
> Some chips (ESP, nRF to name a few) allow you to write a firmware, but
> can hide lower-level functions like actual frame sending (i.e. - blobs
> in SDK). I.e. you provide a chip a tiny, yet complete OS, because
> otherwise all you have a chip that cannot even boot. From the host POV
> you just put some bits on a appropriate bus and hope that the other
> side is something you expect it to be. An example - [1].
> 
> Some chips (Broadcom, Realtek or Intel, for instance), have an OS part
> baked-in (or, very rarely - stored at EEPROM), and payload (i.e.
> application-level software) needs to be loaded by host.  And that my
> "firmware" statement was referred to a part that's baked-in, not a blob
> from linux-firmware. After all, A0:F3:C1 in that NIC above is Tp-Link,
> not Realtek.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, although I'm afraid that it's
still a little above my head. So when you referred above to a
"low-quality kernel module," you weren't referring to the linux kernel,
but something that TP-Link installs onto their products?

Celejar

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