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Re: Replacement Email Client

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Replacement Email Client
Date 2020-10-28 09:40 +0100
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 04:18:40PM -0700, John Conover wrote:
> Patrick Bartek writes:
> > > >  
> > > >> On 10/25/20 8:28 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:  
> > > >>> I'm not referring to viewing HTML emails. I already can do that in
> > > >>> Claws-Mail using its Dillo plugin. I'm talking about filling in
> > > >>> forms, etc. that are part of the HTML email and sending just the
> > > >>> data without "replying" in the normal sense.  This is beyond
> > > >>> Claws' and Dillo's capabilities.  I have to use a real browser,
> > > >>> log into that particular web mail account (like gmail), click on
> > > >>> that particular email, etc. to do so.
> > > >>>
> 
> Has anyone:
> 
>     1) ReBoot your machine.
>     2) login and launch claws-mail with the Dillo plugin, 
>        and exit claws-mail
>     3) lsof -Pni > tempfile
> 
> and near the end of tempfile is 10 process running from Dillo, even
> through claws-mail has exited, (all listeners, something like 50 MB of
> memory.)

Wow. 50 MB.

For reference, I have a (severely restrained, no javascript [1])
Firefox running. Just one tab open, showing just one jpeg from
XKCD [2]).

Top shows it as the (by far hungriest) memory user, with 263 MB.
Second, third and fourth are... WebContent, WebExtensions and
WebContent, which are Firefox too, just in disguise.

Adding those four together towers up to roughly half a gigabyte.
Even assuming that half of that is shared libs...

Oh, fifth is Emacs, with roughly 63 MB. But it has a 500K Org
mode file in its belly (so it's doing something useful).

How did we end here? How did we end up paying for the ad
industry's infrastrutcture, paying with our privacy, but
also with our real money, having to buy RAM and CPU power
just for their sake?

How do we get out of here?

Cheers
 - t

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                Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-26 16:30 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:50 +0100
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                Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
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              Re: Replacement Email Client Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2020-10-27 02:30 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2020-10-27 10:00 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 21:50 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-27 22:10 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-27 23:30 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-28 05:10 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-28 13:50 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 18:40 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2020-11-03 10:00 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2020-10-28 00:20 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-10-28 09:40 +0100
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                Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-28 13:30 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-10-28 14:40 +0100
              Re: Replacement Email Client Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-10-27 12:50 +0100
                Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 17:10 +0100
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                Re: Replacement Email Client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-10-27 22:40 +0100
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