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Re: Slic3r --gui won't run

From Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Slic3r --gui won't run
Date 2020-07-21 15:00 +0200
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On Tuesday 21 July 2020 07:45:03 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:43:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Most of the hardware support is in the kernel and as far as I can
> > tell buster should run with a 4.2 kernel (required by systemd).
>
> The release notes for buster say that it requires a 3.2 kernel due
> to GNU libc.
>
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-informat
>ion.en.html#glibc-and-linux
>
> This is the reason why my VPS, which is running under a 2.6 kernel,
> cannot be upgraded past stretch.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, there is no reason Gene couldn't run
> buster with his 3.10 kernel.  At least, nothing in the release notes
> counter-indicates it.  Actual experience may dictate otherwise.

The other consideration in the case of the pi's is that up until part way 
thru the 4.19 series, there was no support for its video hdwe, forceing 
us to use the framebuffer, whose update rate is about 2 to 3 fps at 
best.  With that support enabled, full screen glxgears runs at 60 fps. 
Without that, the backplot for linuxcnc is 2 or 3 seconds behind the 
machine.

What has amazed me from the gitgo, is that the single most popular by a 
wide margin, arm based board, outnumbering all others combined by a wide 
margin, gets zero support from debian. I did a netinstall of buster, 
which almost worked, but because it was for arm64, had unusable for 
linuxcnc multi-millisecond latency, where the armhf can do latencies of 
15 microseconds, not great, but good enough.  And it took me a couple 
days after the install, to get enough networking stuff blown away and 
make it work on my host file based network. I spent weeks building 
preempt-rt kernels without building anything that would install. 
Questions asking for help were always blown off.

Then I found raspbian was also makeing buster, but for armhf.  And they 
could supply the src for a realtime-preempt kernel, no support, just the 
src. So I built it, and using what I learned, I figured out a way to 
install it, and made a 30meg tarball others could install. You can even 
get it from my web page. But the install is not by conventional methods, 
read and follow the readme.

So please tell me why, despite all the other distributions using your 
code base to make extremely stable versions of buster, has debian rather 
pointedly, indeed gone out of your way, to unsupport the rpi's?

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 14:10 +0200
  Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 14:20 +0200
    Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 15:50 +0200
      Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 16:00 +0200
        Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 16:30 +0200
          Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 16:40 +0200
            Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2020-07-19 17:40 +0200
              Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 17:40 +0200
            Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 18:20 +0200
              Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 18:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 19:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-19 19:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 12:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 19:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-19 19:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-19 21:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-19 20:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 13:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 13:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-20 16:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 18:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 19:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 19:10 +0200
                Re: Debian and Raspberry Pi4 (was:  Slic3r --gui won't run). Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-07-20 19:50 +0200
                Re: Debian and Raspberry Pi4 (was: Slic3r --gui won't run). Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 23:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 20:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-21 08:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-21 09:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-21 13:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-21 15:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-23 08:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-07-24 13:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-21 21:00 +0200
        Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 18:00 +0200
          Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-19 18:10 +0200
            Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 18:50 +0200
              Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-19 19:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-19 20:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 07:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 11:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 17:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-20 17:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 19:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-20 19:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 20:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-20 22:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 20:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 13:30 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 17:40 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-20 17:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 18:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-20 19:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-21 08:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-21 20:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-23 08:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-20 19:50 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 13:20 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-20 15:10 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-20 19:00 +0200
                Re: Slic3r --gui won't run David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-20 19:30 +0200
  Re: Slic3r --gui won't run mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-07-21 21:40 +0200

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