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| From | Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> |
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Question: SSD speed |
| Date | Thu, 08 Oct 2020 20:30:01 +0200 |
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On 10/8/2020 8:09 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:53:16AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> Michael Stone wrote: >>> > I'd assume it's confusion between bits and bytes. [...] >>> > just write out bit or byte >> >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> SI prefixes can also help... if you use them consistently. >> >> It is a classic that programs talk mixed about GB and GiB while not >> clearly >> distinguishing them. In general, users must keep the difference in >> mind when >> they compare "GB" values from different programs. >> See >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte > > This is basically never an issue in conversational usage as the > difference is less than the margin of error or real-world precision. If I rather beg to differ. Many daily operations involve precision better than the 2.4% variance between 1000 and 1024. Certainly my bank account balance is maintained to within $.01 of more than $10,000, or 0.0001%. I would be fairly distressed if $240 were missing from my account. Much of the work I do involves tolerances of less than 1%. > you're planning for a million dollars worth of storage, yeah, make sure > you're clear on what you're buying. But when discussing a 10Gbit/s > network or a 4TByte drive, there isn't ambiguity. (Only, potentially, > pedantry.) Well, what, really, is wrong with pedantry? As an engineer, precision is absolutely of the essence. What's more, variations become far tighter in certain circumstances. This especially as a container nears being full. If one has 1 MB of storage available (allowing for file system overhead and block alignment), then 1 MB of data will fit, but 1 MiB will not. Not only that, but the discrepancy grows exponentially with the order of magnitude. The difference between 1 KB and 1 KiB is only 24 bytes, or 2.4%. The difference between 1 TB and 1 TiB is 9.9%, which is getting to be pretty significant. That, not to mention the fact 93 GiB is a pretty good chunk of storage.
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Question: SSD speed Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2020-10-07 10:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-10-07 11:40 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-10-07 12:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-07 12:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2020-10-07 12:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-07 15:10 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-08 11:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-10-08 12:00 +0200
[SOLVED] Re: Question: SSD speed Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2020-10-08 12:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-08 15:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-10-08 16:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-08 16:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-08 17:40 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-08 17:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-08 18:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-08 20:30 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-10-08 20:40 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-08 21:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-09 02:00 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-10-09 02:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-09 02:40 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-09 00:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-10-09 02:20 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-10-09 15:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Alberto Sentieri <22t@tripolho.com> - 2020-10-07 13:30 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-07 14:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-08 10:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2020-10-07 18:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2020-10-07 18:50 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-10-07 19:50 +0200
[SOLVED] Re: Question: SSD speed Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2020-10-07 20:00 +0200
[SOLVED] Re: Question: SSD speed Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2020-10-08 09:10 +0200
Re: Question: SSD speed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-10-08 11:00 +0200
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