Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions

From	Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions
Date	2020-09-07 20:10 +0200
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In reality - there's very little hardware newer than ten years old that's
economic to run - x86_6r4 has been around for long enough that 64 bit
hardware is cheap. The overhead of compiling _pure_ 32 bit is significant
to keep going. It's not for nothing that Debian's 32 bit target has
gradually moved from 386 to 586 to 686 - an early Geode is probably at the
very end of its support lifestyle. pretty much everything else other than
Debian has dropped full 32 bit support. It will be there for Bullseye but
that will almost certainly be the last.

Ubuntu has already dropped 32 bit support once, reintroduced very limited
support and it will probably go again. Maybe not before time - the laptop
I'm typing this on is eight years old or so, the sort of thing you'd pull
from a junk pile, has been rescued by adding a cheap SSD and ran 32 bit
Windows originally. It's equivalent can probaby be picked up off the back
shelf in any computer recycling shop.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew Cater wrote:
>
> > Potentially zero difference - until the 32 bit browser just isn't there
> > any more / isn't patched. This is the sort of question that the debian-cd
> > team are also pondering: as the years go on, it is harder and harder to
> > justify 32 bit software at least for the x86 architecture. There are
> > already problems with some software that just won't build well in a 32
> bit
> > environment.
>
> this would be unfortunate because I am sure there is enough 32bit hardware
> out there still working quite well - like mine Geode based firewall - it is
> running since 2008.
> I am sure even if debian drops the support of 32bit something else will
> take
> it over.
>
>

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32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 15:50 +0200
  Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-07 16:20 +0200
    Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-07 16:50 +0200
    Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 17:10 +0200
      Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-07 17:20 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 17:50 +0200
  Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-09-07 16:30 +0200
    Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 17:20 +0200
      Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 17:30 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 20:00 +0200
          Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 20:10 +0200
            Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 20:30 +0200
          Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-09-07 21:30 +0200
            Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 22:00 +0200
              Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 22:10 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 07:50 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-08 14:30 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 19:30 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-08 21:30 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 22:00 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-09-08 17:20 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 19:40 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2020-09-09 07:50 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-09 14:20 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 14:30 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-09 14:50 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 20:50 +0200
              Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 00:00 +0200
            Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 10:50 +0200
              Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 19:40 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 07:40 +0200
                Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-09-09 14:20 +0200
      Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-09-07 21:00 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 22:20 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-09-07 23:40 +0200
          Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2020-09-08 00:10 +0200
            Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 08:10 +0200
      Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-07 21:00 +0200
        Printed page vs. computer screen (was: Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-08 01:20 +0200
  Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-09-07 16:30 +0200
  Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-09-07 17:00 +0200
    Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 20:00 +0200
      Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-07 21:10 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-09-07 21:30 +0200
          Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 23:00 +0200
        Re: 32 versus 64 bit reading list suggestions Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-07 22:30 +0200

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