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Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt

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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:58 AM Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Ma, 11 aug 20, 15:33:53, Javier Barroso wrote:
> >
> > I swiched from aptitude to apt-get/apt some years ago
> >
> > aptitude need love :(
> >
> > My problem was mixing 64 and 32 bits packages. Seem aptitude didn't do a
> > good job
> >
> > Reading Planet debian and transitions and apt-listbugs (or how It is named)
> > , apt update && apt full-upgrade , run perfect in unstable
>
> In my experience[1] 'apt full-upgrade' is rarely needed, even on
> unstable, because 'apt upgrade' allows for new packages (and
> 'apt autoremove' is needed anyway for removals).
>
> This will take care of most library transitions (e.g. package foo
> depends libbar1 -> libbar2) and packages with the version in their name
> (e.g. linux-image-amd64 depends linux-image-5.6.xx ->
> linux-image-5.7.xx).
>
> The main benefit of aptitude (especially for unstable) is it's
> interactive mode:
>
>  * Easy browsing of packages, (reverse) dependency chains, etc.
>
>  * Keeps track of "new" packages, very useful to see what's new in
>    unstable.
>
>  * Easy selective disabling of Recommends (or enabling, for those who
>    disable Recommends globally).
>
>  * One step (full-)upgrade and autoremoval of packages (press 'u' to
>    update the package list, 'U' to prepare the full-upgrade, 'g' to
>    inspect the proposed actions and 'g' again to apply).
>
>  * Interactive dependency resolving for when (not if) unstable is
>    broken, with several methods to tweak it (let it search for different
>    solutions, mark specific packages to "keep", etc.).
>
>  * Forbid version, for when (not if) the new version of a package you
>    need has a bug that affects you.
>
>    aptitude will then automatically skip to the next version when
>    available (hopefully with the bug fixed, but that's why apt-listbugs
>    exists)
>
>  * possibly more that I forget right now.
>
>
> And then there's aptitude's search patterns, for which there is
> currently no replacement.
>
> I have aptitude installed on all but the smallest system (aptitude +
> dependencies can be significant for a very small install).
>
> [1] Admittedly my recent experience is only with a smallish install with
> openbox, Kodi and Linux build dependencies (just enough to keep track of
> hardware support for the PINE A64+ and possibly enable some kernel
> options for it that are not enabled in Debian's kernel), though I don't
> expect it to be much worse with a full Desktop Environment install or
> similar.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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Okay, so I see no reason not to just continue to use aptitude.  It
seems to work for me as well as anything else.  Thanks to all.

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Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-08-07 19:40 +0200
  Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-08-07 22:10 +0200
    Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 01:10 +0200
      Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2020-08-08 07:00 +0200
  Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 13:40 +0200
    Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Javier Barroso <javibarroso@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:40 +0200
      Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 08:00 +0200
        Re: Apt-get vs Aptitude vs Apt Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 22:50 +0200

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