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Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups
Date 2020-08-14 07:10 +0200
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On 2020-08-13 01:31, David Christensen wrote:
 > Migrating to ZFS was non-trivial, and I am still wresting with
 > disaster preparedness.

I should have qualified that -- when I used ZFS only as a volume manager 
and file system, it was not much harder than md and ext4.  You could put 
a GPT partition scheme on the external USB drive, create one large 
partition, encrypt the partition (optional), put the partition into a 
ZFS pool, create one filesystem inside the pool, and set the 
'mountpoint' property on the filesystem (ZFS does not use /etc/fstab). 
Use the filesystem like any other Linux filesystem.  If any bits rot, 
ZFS will detect them.  Do a "scrub" periodically (e.g. monthly).


On 2020-08-13 18:28, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 04:09:46 PM David Christensen wrote:
>> On 2020-08-13 12:52, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 01:45:59 PM Tom Dial wrote:
>>>> I would recommend installing from buster-backports to get the current
>>>> openzfs release which includes improvements (notably native encryption)
>>>> as well as fixes.
>>>
>>> Two questions:
>>>      * Most of my backup will be done from a Wheezy system -- can I
>>>      install ZFS
>>>
>>> on Wheezy?
>>
>> I do not see any ZFS packages for Wheezy:
>>
>> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=zfs&searchon=names&suite=all&se
>> ction=all
>>
>>
>> The simplest answer would be to install Buster and then install
>> 'zfs-dkms' (either Stable or backport, depending upon preference).
> 
> Just for closure, that system has to stay Wheezy for the forseeable future,
> and then maybe TDE (I need to keep using kmail and kate from Wheezy).


I did some more searching for ZFS on Wheezy.  See the second FAQ item:

     https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy


Add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list:

     deb http://archive.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib


Then run these commands:

     # apt-get update

     # apt-cache search zfs


Look for "zfs-dkms".


David

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Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-13 02:20 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugroups@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 02:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-08-13 03:00 +0200
    Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-08-13 11:00 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Mark Allums <maa@allums.com> - 2020-08-13 03:20 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for  backups Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-08-13 05:20 +0200
    Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-08-13 11:00 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-13 10:40 +0200
    Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-08-13 20:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-13 22:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-13 22:20 +0200
          Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-08-13 22:40 +0200
            Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-08-13 23:00 +0200
              Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2020-08-13 23:40 +0200
                Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2020-08-14 11:40 +0200
                Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-08-14 12:00 +0200
          Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-08-14 03:30 +0200
            Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-14 07:10 +0200
        Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2020-08-14 04:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2020-08-20 00:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2020-08-20 01:40 +0200
        Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-08-20 04:20 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for  backups local10 <local10@tutanota.com> - 2020-08-13 21:50 +0200
  Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 07:30 +0200
    Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-08-14 17:40 +0200
      Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 13:00 +0200

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