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Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card

From Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card
Date 2020-04-27 17:30 +0200
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I have to second the AMD cards. Their Open source drivers have improved 
by leaps and bounds over the last couple years. I honestly believe the 
open source drivers have even surpassed the closed source Nvidia ones 
now.

I know that in the past AMD drivers provided a worse experience because 
they were under developed but that simply isn't the case anymore in my 
opinion. And at least for me supporting a company that absolutely 
refuses to cooperate with open source communities (Nvidia) when there is 
a good alternative like AMD is hard to justify.


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Steven Mainor

On 2020-04-26 05:46, tv.debian@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 25/04/2020 19:28, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 25.04.2020 16:20, Jiangsu Kumquat wrote:
>>> I want to get a good fast Debian compatible card for 1080p.
>>> 
>>> I was looking at this page...
>>> 
>>> Best Graphics Cards 2020 - Top Gaming GPUs for the Money | Tom's 
>>> Hardware
>>> https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html
>>> 
>>> However, I think most or all of those cards won't work that great for
>>> Linux because of compatibility issues.
>>> 
>>> Can you recommend a good card for me to use? I play windows games in
>>> Debian with wine.
>>> 
>>> I tend to prefer AMD cards, but Nvidia cards are okay I guess as long
>>> as they work well with Debian.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!!
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>> I highly recommend Nvidia-based cards, if you don't mind closed-source
>> drivers.
>> Many (Most?) games with Linux-native ports officially support only
>> Nvidia by game developers. I think, this is because of the drivers,
>> their quality and stability.
>> AMD-based card will usually work too, but (as long as I can remember)
>> quality of their drivers were something to be desired and drivers for
>> Linux are under heavy development, but they are open-source.
>> In case of Proton\WINE, you could get mixed results, because some 
>> games
>> (via DXVK) will work better with Nvidia and some are better with AMD.
>> "Better" here as in "less graphical glitches, more performance and
>> stability."
>> To play modern games in 1080p 60fps with high graphics settings you
>> would want minimum GTX1660 or better with 6Gb VRAM or more.
>> 
> 
> Hi, I have two kids and myself playing all kind of games on Steam
> mainly, with protonplay (Steam customized Wine version), on regular
> Wine, or standalone version (like GOG versions). All of us use AMD
> cards and we could not be happier, I would not go back to dealing with
> Nvidia drivers for anything. We used "Polaris10" generation cards
> (like RX570 and RX580), "Vega10" generation (Vega RX 56), and
> currently "Navy10" (5700XT).
> With Debian Stable you might have to use backports packages for
> optimal performances with the latest generation of GPU, but any
> Polaris/Vega/RadeonVII should work fine. Here we run Debian Unstable
> for the gaming/multimedia machines and everything just works without
> the use of any proprietary drivers (aside from the firmware provided
> by the non-free Debian "firmware-amd-graphics" package.
> 
> For game specific compatibility reports the "protondb" website
> maintains a good database [1], but it is only valid for Steam
> "Protonplay" platform. Of course there are many native games which run
> great with Debian and an AMD card, if you have a few specific titles
> in mind feel free to ask.
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.protondb.com/

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Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card Jiangsu Kumquat <reply@mynetblog.com> - 2020-04-25 13:30 +0200
  Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-04-25 14:10 +0200
  Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card). Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-04-25 14:10 +0200
    Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card). Jiangsu Kumquat <reply@mynetblog.com> - 2020-04-25 15:30 +0200
    Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-27 22:00 +0200
      Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-27 22:00 +0200
        Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2020-04-27 22:40 +0200
          Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-28 00:00 +0200
            Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2020-04-28 01:00 +0200
              Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-28 01:20 +0200
                Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2020-04-28 02:50 +0200
            Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-28 10:10 +0200
              Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-28 11:20 +0200
                Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). tomas@tuxteam.de - 2020-04-28 12:00 +0200
                Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card). deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2020-04-28 19:00 +0200
                Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2020-04-29 00:40 +0200
                Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-04-29 09:50 +0200
        Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-28 02:20 +0200
      Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-04-27 22:50 +0200
        Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-04-28 02:20 +0200
    Re: Jitsi (was Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible  video card). "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2020-04-27 22:40 +0200
  Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2020-04-25 16:00 +0200
    Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card nito@dismail.de - 2020-04-25 19:50 +0200
    Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2020-04-26 11:50 +0200
      Re: Please help me find a good Debian compatible video card Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2020-04-27 17:30 +0200

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