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powerpc update for amd64

Started bySZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net>
First post2018-03-04 07:50 +0100
Last post2018-03-04 16:50 +0100
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  powerpc update for amd64 SZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net> - 2018-03-04 07:50 +0100
    Re: powerpc update for amd64 Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2018-03-04 15:30 +0100
      Re: powerpc update for amd64 SZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net> - 2018-03-04 16:10 +0100
        Re: powerpc update for amd64 Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-03-04 16:20 +0100
    Re: powerpc update for amd64 SZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net> - 2018-03-04 16:40 +0100
      Re: powerpc update for amd64 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-03-04 18:40 +0100
    Re: powerpc update for amd64 Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org> - 2018-03-04 16:50 +0100

#5396 — powerpc update for amd64

FromSZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net>
Date2018-03-04 07:50 +0100
Subjectpowerpc update for amd64
Message-ID<vpvD3-Aw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hello!

What is the use of pushing an update with only powerpc changes to amd64?
Thank you.


linux (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) stretch-security; urgency=medium

   * [powerpc] Backport more RFI flush related patches from 4.9.84.  Closes:
     #891249.
   * [powerpc] Ignore ABI change in paca.

  -- Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Fri, 02 Mar 2018 08:52:22 +0100




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#5397

FromGeert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl>
Date2018-03-04 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<vpCOj-5In-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5396
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 07:35:37AM +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> What is the use of pushing an update with only powerpc changes to amd64?
> Thank you.

Please read with me,  scan for 'amd64'

> 
> linux (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) stretch-security; urgency=medium
> 
>   * [powerpc] Backport more RFI flush related patches from 4.9.84.  Closes:
>     #891249.
>   * [powerpc] Ignore ABI change in paca.
> 
>  -- Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Fri, 02 Mar 2018 08:52:22 +0100
> 

No 'amd64' found.

Things found:  'linux'   and  'powerpc'


If the original poster was implying "Linux is only for amd64",
then is wake-up call to say "Linux is way more then architecture 'amd64'"




Groeten
Geert Stappers
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#5398

FromSZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net>
Date2018-03-04 16:10 +0100
Message-ID<vpDqZ-6gS-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5397
Idézem/Quoting Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl>:

> On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 07:35:37AM +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> What is the use of pushing an update with only powerpc changes to amd64?
>> Thank you.
>
> Please read with me,  scan for 'amd64'
>
>>
>> linux (4.9.82-1+deb9u3) stretch-security; urgency=medium
>>
>>   * [powerpc] Backport more RFI flush related patches from 4.9.84.  Closes:
>>     #891249.
>>   * [powerpc] Ignore ABI change in paca.
>>
>>  -- Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Fri, 02 Mar 2018 08:52:22 +0100
>>
>
> No 'amd64' found.
>
> Things found:  'linux'   and  'powerpc'
>
>
> If the original poster was implying "Linux is only for amd64",
> then is wake-up call to say "Linux is way more then architecture 'amd64'"

Thank you.

My question is really this:
Why should one using an amd64 hardware update its kernel/reboot when  
changes are only for powerpc?


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#5399

FromHolger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
Date2018-03-04 16:20 +0100
Message-ID<vpDAB-6lj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5398

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On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 04:07:14PM +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
> Why should one using an amd64 hardware update its kernel/reboot when changes
> are only for powerpc?
 
you should not. (or maybe you should so your monitoring will not
complain about running an outdated kernel.)

however, because the same linux kernel source package is used to build
the linux kernel binary packages for all archs, the amd64 packages are
also updated when there are no changes relevant to amd64.


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

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#5400

FromSZÉPE Viktor <viktor@szepe.net>
Date2018-03-04 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<vpDTX-6u7-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5396
Idézem/Quoting Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org>:

> On Sun Mar 04, 2018 at 07:35:37 +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
>
>> What is the use of pushing an update with only powerpc changes to amd64?
>> Thank you.
>
>   This is just a side-effect of the way the packages are built.
>
>   When a new source upload is made then it is built for all available
>  architectures, even if the changes are not useful / relevant for them.
>
>   Typically security updates apply to all architectures.  In this
>  case just be glad you got "lucky" - and you don't have to schedule
>  reboot(s) of all your server(s).

Thank you!

Luckily a reboot takes ~20-30 seconds from `reboot` to fully booted.



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#5402

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2018-03-04 18:40 +0100
Message-ID<vpFM5-7L6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5400
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 04:31:23PM +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:
> Idézem/Quoting Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org>:
> 
> 
> Luckily a reboot takes ~20-30 seconds from `reboot` to fully booted.

On my desktop machines, sure.

On the server farm, assuming no fsck is needed, some of the
hardware still needs six minutes to do disk enumeration and other
BIOS-ish functions.

Debian is the Universal OS, not the
desktop/VM/laptop/of-course-you-have-a-single-SSD OS.

-dsr-

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#5401

FromSteve Kemp <skx@debian.org>
Date2018-03-04 16:50 +0100
Message-ID<vpDTX-6u7-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5396
On Sun Mar 04, 2018 at 07:35:37 +0100, SZÉPE Viktor wrote:

> What is the use of pushing an update with only powerpc changes to amd64?
> Thank you.

  This is just a side-effect of the way the packages are built. 
  
  When a new source upload is made then it is built for all available
 architectures, even if the changes are not useful / relevant for them.

  Typically security updates apply to all architectures.  In this
 case just be glad you got "lucky" - and you don't have to schedule
 reboot(s) of all your server(s).

Steve
-- 
https://steve.fi/

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