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DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)?

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  DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? gwmfms06@unseen.is - 2016-11-10 03:00 +0100
    Re: DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? Andrew Deck <andrew.hastings.deck@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 03:00 +0100
    Re: DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? intrigeri <intrigeri@debian.org> - 2016-11-10 09:10 +0100
    Re: DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? Robert Haist <rhaist@mailbox.org> - 2016-11-13 12:30 +0100
      Re: DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? intrigeri <intrigeri@debian.org> - 2016-11-13 13:50 +0100
        Re: DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)? Stephen Dowdy <sdowdy@ucar.edu> - 2016-11-13 17:30 +0100

#5102 — DSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)?

Fromgwmfms06@unseen.is
Date2016-11-10 03:00 +0100
SubjectDSA-3708-1 mat -- security update (What are MAT users to do)?
Message-ID<sBMOJ-7gR-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
This email is in response to www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3708

I relied on MAT (Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit) on a daily basis to remove the metadata from PDFs as it is a requirement for my job. I must have this ability. I appreciate the effort to fix this bug but it was not a major issue for me because the PDFs I encounter did not have images. Now that MAT cannot deal with PDFs at all, I am forced to use Windows (which I hate) because I cannot find a suitable alternative to MAT. 

Can anyone please suggest a Debian solution to my current problem? I am assuming that Debian Stretch Stable (2017 release) will have an updated version of MAT that will again process PDFs? But what can I do until then to be able to meet my work demands?

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#5103

FromAndrew Deck <andrew.hastings.deck@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-10 03:00 +0100
Message-ID<sBMOJ-7gR-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5102

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You can downgrade and version-pin the package and continue using the
vulnerable version until a better version is released IFF you're sure the
bug won't affect your use cases.

On Nov 9, 2016 5:52 PM, <gwmfms06@unseen.is> wrote:

> This email is in response to www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3708
>
> I relied on MAT (Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit) on a daily basis to
> remove the metadata from PDFs as it is a requirement for my job. I must
> have this ability. I appreciate the effort to fix this bug but it was not a
> major issue for me because the PDFs I encounter did not have images. Now
> that MAT cannot deal with PDFs at all, I am forced to use Windows (which I
> hate) because I cannot find a suitable alternative to MAT.
>
> Can anyone please suggest a Debian solution to my current problem? I am
> assuming that Debian Stretch Stable (2017 release) will have an updated
> version of MAT that will again process PDFs? But what can I do until then
> to be able to meet my work demands?
>
>

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#5105

Fromintrigeri <intrigeri@debian.org>
Date2016-11-10 09:10 +0100
Message-ID<sBSAN-2Uu-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5102
Hi,

gwmfms06@unseen.is:
> This email is in response to www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3708

> I relied on MAT (Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit) on a daily basis to remove the
> metadata from PDFs as it is a requirement for my job. I must have this ability.
> I appreciate the effort to fix this bug but it was not a major issue for me because
> the PDFs I encounter did not have images. Now that MAT cannot deal with PDFs at all,
> I am forced to use Windows (which I hate) because I cannot find a suitable
> alternative to MAT.

I'm sorry about that. FYI this affects me as well as a lot of Tails users.

> Can anyone please suggest a Debian solution to my current problem?

I'm not aware of any :/

> I am assuming that Debian Stretch Stable (2017 release) will have an
> updated version of MAT that will again process PDFs?

This is unlikely, but who knows: perhaps someone will show up and
contribute patches upstream (https://0xacab.org/mat/mat/issues/11067).

Cheers,
-- 
intrigeri

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#5111

FromRobert Haist <rhaist@mailbox.org>
Date2016-11-13 12:30 +0100
Message-ID<sD190-7Yp-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
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For PDFs you can use exiftool from the libimage-exiftool-perl to remove
metadata:

	exiftool -all= example.pdf

This works for me.

Regards,
Rob

On 10.11.2016 02:42, gwmfms06@unseen.is wrote:
> This email is in response to www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3708
> 
> I relied on MAT (Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit) on a daily basis to remove the metadata from PDFs as it is a requirement for my job. I must have this ability. I appreciate the effort to fix this bug but it was not a major issue for me because the PDFs I encounter did not have images. Now that MAT cannot deal with PDFs at all, I am forced to use Windows (which I hate) because I cannot find a suitable alternative to MAT. 
> 
> Can anyone please suggest a Debian solution to my current problem? I am assuming that Debian Stretch Stable (2017 release) will have an updated version of MAT that will again process PDFs? But what can I do until then to be able to meet my work demands?
> 

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#5112

Fromintrigeri <intrigeri@debian.org>
Date2016-11-13 13:50 +0100
Message-ID<sD2oq-jd-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5111
Robert Haist:
> For PDFs you can use exiftool from the libimage-exiftool-perl to remove
> metadata:

> 	exiftool -all= example.pdf

> This works for me.

Does this address the problem (metadata in embedded images) that
triggered us from removing this functionality from MAT?

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#5113

FromStephen Dowdy <sdowdy@ucar.edu>
Date2016-11-13 17:30 +0100
Message-ID<sD5Pj-2Gi-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#5112

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> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:47 AM, intrigeri <intrigeri@debian.org> wrote:
> Robert Haist:
> > For PDFs you can use exiftool from the libimage-exiftool-perl to remove
> > metadata:
> >       exiftool -all= example.pdf
> > This works for me.
>
> Does this address the problem (metadata in embedded images) that
> triggered us from removing this functionality from MAT?

Assuming the documentation is correct, the manpage for exiftool states:

>            3) Changes to PDF files are reversible because the original
information is never actually deleted from the file.  >               So
ExifTool alone may not be used to securely edit metadata in PDF files.

that sounds like a "NO".  :-(

--stephen



-- 
Stephen Dowdy  -  Systems Administrator  -  NCAR/RAL
303.497.2869   -  sdowdy@ucar.edu        -  http://www.ral.ucar.edu/~sdowdy/

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