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  MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-01-31 19:00 +0100
    Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2020-01-31 20:50 +0100
    Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-01 10:40 +0100
    Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-02 10:30 +0100
    Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Utkarsh Gupta <utkarsh@debian.org> - 2020-02-12 01:00 +0100
    Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-04-30 23:10 +0200

#11404 — MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM?

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hi,

so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways -
a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got
done. IOW: I hope you liked it!

So, shall we repeat this for 2021?

And shall we do it again at HSBXL? The venue is a bit challenging but
also quite nice and has a lot of potential we didn't use.

The challenge I see for doing it elsewhere is that it needs more work
and someone to do it, which is:

- finding a suitable venue
- solving payment (Debian surely has money but details are a bit tricky)
- finding sponsors maybe - or maybe rather not.
- operate the venue, eg unlock and lock it

The last point was actually very enjoyable at HSBXL, where the ship had
no passengers but only crew.

And btw, Debian could also give some money to HSBXL. This time I was
very happy that $random_DDs_employer is willing to pay 3*50 EUR
attendence fee to HSBXL but IMHO Debian could also just donate 
$some_money to HSBXL. (And you can all still put money in the fridge,
heating costs money.)

And then $hackerspace_person_1, who was there the three days also was
very happy about help received with carrying stuff up & down, as the
elevator was broken.

So yeah, IMO we could do this again next year, if HSBXL would offer to
host us again.

;)

P.S.: last year I was wondering if we should have a pre- or post FOSDEM
event and today I think pre FOSDEM is better.

Feedback welcome.


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

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#11405

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On 20-01-31 12 h 57, Holger Levsen wrote:
> And btw, Debian could also give some money to HSBXL. This time I was
> very happy that $random_DDs_employer is willing to pay 3*50 EUR
> attendence fee to HSBXL but IMHO Debian could also just donate 
> $some_money to HSBXL. (And you can all still put money in the fridge,
> heating costs money.)

I wasn't there for the miniconf, but I do agree it would be nice for
Debian to give some money (more than a symbolic sum, but not tons of it)
to nice collectives and spaces who host Debian events for free :)

It helps those communities thrive and they often don't have tons of cash
lying around.

-- 
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  ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Louis-Philippe Véronneau
  ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋   pollo@debian.org / veronneau.org
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#11406

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Le vendredi, 31 janvier 2020, 18.57:16 h CET Holger Levsen a écrit :
> so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways -
> a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got
> done. IOW: I hope you liked it!

I did, thank you very much for making this possible!

> So, shall we repeat this for 2021?
> 
> And shall we do it again at HSBXL? The venue is a bit challenging but
> also quite nice and has a lot of potential we didn't use.

The (mostly obvious if you were there) challenges are:
- 3 large flight of stairs (~ 5-6 floors), no elevator,
- 2-3 numbered locks with secrets to be passed around,
- the heated room got quite crowded; and some hacked in the much colder 
  space just outside of the main room.

> And btw, Debian could also give some money to HSBXL. This time I was
> very happy that $random_DDs_employer is willing to pay 3*50 EUR
> attendence fee to HSBXL but IMHO Debian could also just donate
> $some_money to HSBXL.

I'd recommend making it clearer that it's possible to get invoices for 
attendance; something like: "Attendance is free, but if you or your employer 
can contribute a modest amount towards helping making this event possible, the 
recommended daily amount is #€; please get in contact with $ to get a formal 
invoice".

> P.S.: last year I was wondering if we should have a pre- or post FOSDEM
> event and today I think pre FOSDEM is better.

pre- is good, agreed.

-- 
    OdyX

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#11407

Hi,

Em 31/01/2020 18:57, Holger Levsen escreveu:
> hi,
> 
> so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways -
> a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got
> done. IOW: I hope you liked it!

It was really great :-)

If it happens again next year, one suggestion is put some signs 
especially on the front door for the new attendees.

I saw the talks on friday was organized on the last hour, and it was 
sucess. Maybe make a call for them and list them on a pad or wiki?

Best regards,

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

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#11427

Hiya,

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:57 PM Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> wrote:
> so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways -
> a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got
> done. IOW: I hope you liked it!

Definitely! Many thanks for organizing it :)

> So, shall we repeat this for 2021?

Definitely again!

> The last point was actually very enjoyable at HSBXL, where the ship had
> no passengers but only crew.

Indeed!

> And btw, Debian could also give some money to HSBXL. This time I was
> very happy that $random_DDs_employer is willing to pay 3*50 EUR
> attendence fee to HSBXL but IMHO Debian could also just donate
> $some_money to HSBXL. (And you can all still put money in the fridge,
> heating costs money.)

Yes, please!
It'd probably be a right thing to do.

> P.S.: last year I was wondering if we should have a pre- or post FOSDEM
> event and today I think pre FOSDEM is better.

Yes, again.
Personally, FOSDEM is (fun and) tiring. People post-FOSDEM might be
willing to rather rest :)
So +1 to pre-FOSDEM again.


Best,
Utkarsh

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#11846

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Hi,

a long time ago on a planet far away... I wrote:

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 05:57:16PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways -
> a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got
> done. IOW: I hope you liked it!
> 
> So, shall we repeat this for 2021?
[...]

and got some positive and constructive feedback. Many thanks for that,
though I think you'll understand why I'm not replying in detail anymore.

Now I just want to let you know that - back then in Mid February 2020
- I created https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/be/2021/MiniDebCamp
to start planning... please subscribe and contribute!

My plan is to pick this up again once we know (when) there will be a 'normal
FOSDEM' again.

Take care.


-- 
cheers,
	Holger

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