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  Merry Christmas more debian private leaks "Santa Claus" <santa.claus@mailo.com> - 2019-12-24 13:00 +0100
    Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2019-12-24 14:10 +0100
    Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2019-12-24 22:30 +0100
      Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks "Santa Claus" <santa.claus@mailo.com> - 2019-12-24 23:40 +0100
        Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 00:20 +0100
          Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 00:40 +0100
      Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 09:00 +0100
        Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks "Santa Claus" <santa.claus@mailo.com> - 2019-12-25 09:20 +0100
          Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Zlatan <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2019-12-25 09:40 +0100
            Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 10:50 +0100
    Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 23:20 +0100

#11246 — Merry Christmas more debian private leaks

You can't polish a turd

No matter how hard you try, you can't conduct a bullying experiment on volunteers for over a year and claim you are making the community better.

A turd is still a turd and bullying is still bullying, no matter what the cabal calls it or what stories they make up to justify it.

Merry Christmas

Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS

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#11248

Oh, just fuck off.

Merry Christmas to everyone else.
--
Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>

> On 24 Dec 2019, at 12:55, Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:
> 
> You can't polish a turd
> 
> No matter how hard you try, you can't conduct a bullying experiment on volunteers for over a year and claim you are making the community better.
> 
> A turd is still a turd and bullying is still bullying, no matter what the cabal calls it or what stories they make up to justify it.
> 
> Merry Christmas
> 
> Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS
> 
> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL
> 
> 

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#11260

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Has anyone who's friends with pocock encouraged him to get help?

Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he gets the
help he needs and gets well soon.

Paul


On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 6:55 AM Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:

> You can't polish a turd
>
> No matter how hard you try, you can't conduct a bullying experiment on
> volunteers for over a year and claim you are making the community better.
>
> A turd is still a turd and bullying is still bullying, no matter what the
> cabal calls it or what stories they make up to justify it.
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS
>
> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL
>
>
>

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#11262

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why do some people have a vendetta against this volunteer?



speak behind his back at Christmas.  charming.  you prove the point about bullying in this great 'community' here




De : Paul R. Tagliamonte <paultag@gmail.com>
À : debian-project@lists.debian.org
Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks
Date : 24/12/2019 22:02:43 Europe/Paris
Copie à : debian-project@lists.debian.org

Has anyone who's friends with pocock encouraged him to get help?


Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he gets the help he needs and gets well soon.



Paul





On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 6:55 AM Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:

You can't polish a turd

No matter how hard you try, you can't conduct a bullying experiment on volunteers for over a year and claim you are making the community better.

A turd is still a turd and bullying is still bullying, no matter what the cabal calls it or what stories they make up to justify it.

Merry Christmas

Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL

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#11264

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I'm not joking Daniel. We've met before. We all care for you. Please get
help.

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealthservices/

My prayers are with you over the holidays. I know it can be tough. Please
spend time with your family and relax.

Happy holidays,
Paul


On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 5:30 PM Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:

>
> why do some people have a vendetta against this volunteer?
>
> speak behind his back at Christmas.  charming.  you prove the point about
> bullying in this great 'community' here
>
>
> De : Paul R. Tagliamonte <paultag@gmail.com>
> À : debian-project@lists.debian.org
> Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks
> Date : 24/12/2019 22:02:43 Europe/Paris
> Copie à : debian-project@lists.debian.org
>
> Has anyone who's friends with pocock encouraged him to get help?
>
> Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he gets
> the help he needs and gets well soon.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 6:55 AM Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:
>
>> You can't polish a turd
>>
>> No matter how hard you try, you can't conduct a bullying experiment on
>> volunteers for over a year and claim you are making the community better.
>>
>> A turd is still a turd and bullying is still bullying, no matter what the
>> cabal calls it or what stories they make up to justify it.
>>
>> Merry Christmas
>>
>> Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS
>>
>> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL
>>
>>
>>

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#11265

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Le mardi 24 décembre 2019 à 17:54:38-0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte a écrit :
> I'm not joking Daniel. We've met before. We all care for you. Please get help.
> 
> http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealthservices/
> 
> My prayers are with you over the holidays. I know it can be tough. Please spend
> time with your family and relax.
> 
> Happy holidays,

+1.

Get well soon, Daniel.

-- 
Pierre-Elliott Bécue
GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528  F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2
It's far easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.

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#11268

Hi Paul,

"Paul R. Tagliamonte" writes:
> Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he gets the
> help he needs and gets well soon.

I would like to ask you to not comment on other people's mental health
on public mailing lists. We don't do this for people who endorse
individual violence & right of the person who is physically stronger
(even though they live in a place where there is a collective agreement
to leave violence to elected governments and haven't moved to countries
where lynching is accepted), people who have anger management issues
(and get extremely angry when they don't get what they want), or people
who believe in conspiracy theories either.

If you really feel sending such mails would be helpful, please only send
them in private mail to the concerned party.

Ansgar

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#11269

---- Message d'origine ----
> De : Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org>
> À : Paul R. Tagliamonte <paultag@gmail.com>
> Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks
> Date : 25/12/2019 08:48:25 Europe/Paris
> Copie à : debian-project@lists.debian.org
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> "Paul R. Tagliamonte" writes:
> > Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he gets 
> the
> > help he needs and gets well soon.
> 
> I would like to ask you to not comment on other people's mental health

Mr Tag wants to run for Debian Project Leader

shitting on volunteers from great height is one of the skills other recent leaders have demonstrated so competently.  keep it up.  make Debian great again!

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#11270

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Can we ban this email account (and be persistent with such effort)?

Z

On December 25, 2019 9:19:40 AM GMT+01:00, Santa Claus <santa.claus@mailo.com> wrote:
>
>---- Message d'origine ----
>> De : Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org>
>> À : Paul R. Tagliamonte <paultag@gmail.com>
>> Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks
>> Date : 25/12/2019 08:48:25 Europe/Paris
>> Copie à : debian-project@lists.debian.org
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> "Paul R. Tagliamonte" writes:
>> > Very sad and disturbed by all of his behavior. I very much hope he
>gets 
>> the
>> > help he needs and gets well soon.
>> 
>> I would like to ask you to not comment on other people's mental
>health
>
>Mr Tag wants to run for Debian Project Leader
>
>shitting on volunteers from great height is one of the skills other
>recent leaders have demonstrated so competently.  keep it up.  make
>Debian great again!

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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#11271

Zlatan writes:
> Can we ban this email account (and be persistent with such effort)?

We should, but it's playing whack-a-mole as one can just again create a
new, anonymous mail account anywhere.

Targeted abusive behavior is much harder to get rid of than spam as most
blocking systems can be worked around with some minimal manual
effort. Even people sending spam will (sometimes) subscribe to mailing
lists or impose other people; any such measures thus certainly wouldn't
help when people are willing to work around these measures manually.

You could moderate all mail and/or whitelist people based on DKIM-signed
mails that cannot easily be forged, but that would require to spend
quite some effort on boring things :-/

Ansgar

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#11276

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On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:44:44PM +0100, Santa Claus wrote:
> Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS

> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL

Nothing says "I'm taking a stand against bullying" quite like repeatedly
republishing people's private correspondence from 20 years ago.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                   https://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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