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| Started by | "Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> |
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| First post | 2019-03-26 08:00 +0100 |
| Last post | 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100 |
| Articles | 6 — 5 participants |
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Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? "Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> - 2019-03-26 08:00 +0100
Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2019-03-26 08:30 +0100
Re: Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? "Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> - 2019-03-26 08:40 +0100
Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2019-03-26 09:00 +0100
Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2019-03-26 09:30 +0100
Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
| From | "Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> |
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| Date | 2019-03-26 08:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? |
| Message-ID | <xFOdX-6S-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
The humble & humiliating apology made by Comrade Preining last week smells like the confessions that political prisoners make after undergoing thought reform and coercive persuasion programs. The State 100% right and Comrade Prisoner 100% wrong. Of course. How could Preining refuse after DAM leaks his name to newspapers? So much pressure. Demotion like Chinese internment camps for muslims to get their thought reform treatment. Preinings warning looks like Chinese social credit scheme. Why not ask Chinese GSoC student to copy social credit scoreboard for Debian. The elections look like new-era Hong Kong elections, only candidates from the Party are permitted. Anybody else alert to these things? --- Take your mailboxes with you. Free, fast and secure Mail & Cloud: https://www.eclipso.eu - Time to change!
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| From | Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> |
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| Date | 2019-03-26 08:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xFOH0-w5-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #10402 |
You are absolutely wrong and I find your email disgusting and disrespectful to all the political prisoners you mention in your email. Please do not write your hurtful emails here anymore. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> > On 26 Mar 2019, at 07:58, Robin Wheeler <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> wrote: > > The humble & humiliating apology made by Comrade Preining last week > smells like the confessions that political prisoners > make after undergoing thought reform and coercive persuasion > programs. The State 100% right and Comrade Prisoner 100% wrong. > Of course. > > How could Preining refuse after DAM leaks his name to newspapers? > So much pressure. > > Demotion like Chinese internment camps for muslims to get their > thought reform treatment. > > Preinings warning looks like Chinese social credit scheme. Why not ask > Chinese GSoC student to copy social credit scoreboard for Debian. > > The elections look like new-era Hong Kong elections, only candidates > from the Party are permitted. > > Anybody else alert to these things? > > > --- > > Take your mailboxes with you. Free, fast and secure Mail & Cloud: https://www.eclipso.eu - Time to change! > >
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| From | "Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> |
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| Date | 2019-03-26 08:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xFOQF-zq-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #10403 |
--- original message --- From: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> Date: 26.03.2019 08:22:03 To: Robin Wheeler <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> Subject: Re: Debian, Totalitarianism, Thought Reform, what next? > You are absolutely wrong and I find your email disgusting and disrespectful > to all the political prisoners you mention in your email. > He was forced with a gun to his head Two other developers resigned under pressure Way to go Debian --- Take your mailboxes with you. Free, fast and secure Mail & Cloud: https://www.eclipso.eu - Time to change!
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| From | Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> |
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| Date | 2019-03-26 09:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xFPa2-GG-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #10403 |
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck .... On 3/26/19 3:22 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > You are absolutely wrong and I find your email disgusting and disrespectful to all the political prisoners you mention in your email. > > Please do not write your hurtful emails here anymore. > > Ondrej > -- > Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> > >> On 26 Mar 2019, at 07:58, Robin Wheeler <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> wrote: >> >> The humble & humiliating apology made by Comrade Preining last week >> smells like the confessions that political prisoners >> make after undergoing thought reform and coercive persuasion >> programs. The State 100% right and Comrade Prisoner 100% wrong. >> Of course. >> >> How could Preining refuse after DAM leaks his name to newspapers? >> So much pressure. >> >> Demotion like Chinese internment camps for muslims to get their >> thought reform treatment. >> >> Preinings warning looks like Chinese social credit scheme. Why not ask >> Chinese GSoC student to copy social credit scoreboard for Debian. >> >> The elections look like new-era Hong Kong elections, only candidates >> from the Party are permitted. >> >> Anybody else alert to these things? >> >> >> --- >> >> Take your mailboxes with you. Free, fast and secure Mail & Cloud: https://www.eclipso.eu - Time to change! >> >> -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown
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| From | Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> |
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| Date | 2019-03-26 09:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xFPD4-16a-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #10402 |
Robin Wheeler - 26.03.19, 07:58: > The humble & humiliating apology made by Comrade Preining last week > smells like the confessions that political prisoners > make after undergoing thought reform and coercive persuasion > programs. The State 100% right and Comrade Prisoner 100% wrong. > Of course. Seriously, *please* give it a rest. Please give it some time to heal. Just for now. Comparing this situation with political prisoners is so far off anything that is even remotely accurate that there is really nothing to discuss here. Apologizing and forgiveness are some of the greatest tools to heal what was wounded. Thanks, -- Martin
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| From | Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xGr5D-70O-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #10402 |
"Robin Wheeler" <RobinWheeler@eclipso.eu> writes: > The humble & humiliating apology made by Comrade Preining last week > smells like the confessions that political prisoners make after > undergoing thought reform and coercive persuasion programs. Your comparison is disgusting, both an insult to those who suffer as political prisoners and an insult to all who work to heal the damage in incidents like this. Yes, including the person you refer to. > Anybody else alert to these things? We are alert to your trolling. Go away. -- \ “You can never entirely stop being what you once were. That's | `\ why it's important to be the right person today, and not put it | _o__) off until tomorrow.” —Larry Wall | Ben Finney
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