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Re: Request for official help

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First post2017-07-20 14:00 +0200
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  Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-20 14:00 +0200
    Re: Request for official help Russell Stuart <russell-debian@stuart.id.au> - 2017-07-20 14:50 +0200
    Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-20 16:50 +0200
      Re: Request for official help Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2017-07-25 12:30 +0200
        Re: Request for official help Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-07-25 13:40 +0200
          Re: Request for official help Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-07-25 20:00 +0200
            Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-25 20:40 +0200
              Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-28 19:40 +0200
                Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-31 14:40 +0200
            Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-25 21:10 +0200
              Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-26 00:00 +0200
                Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-27 21:20 +0200
                  Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-27 21:30 +0200
                    Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-27 21:50 +0200
                      Re: Request for official help Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-07-29 02:50 +0200
                      Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-31 15:10 +0200
                        Re: Request for official help Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-07-31 15:20 +0200
                          Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-07-31 15:40 +0200
                            Re: Request for official help [and 1 more messages] Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-08-29 16:10 +0200
                        Re: Request for official help Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-01 03:40 +0200
                          Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-08-01 12:50 +0200
                            Re: Request for official help Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-08-01 13:20 +0200
                            Re: Request for official help Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-01 13:40 +0200
                              Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-08-01 20:20 +0200
                                Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-08-11 15:10 +0200
                                  Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-08-27 23:30 +0200
                                    Re: Request for official help Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-28 01:10 +0200
                                    Re: Request for official help Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-08-28 09:30 +0200
                                    Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-04-19 14:50 +0200
                                    Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2018-04-30 18:10 +0200
                                      Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-05-03 13:50 +0200
                                        Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2018-05-03 14:30 +0200
                                          Re: Request for official help Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-05-03 17:40 +0200
                                            Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2018-05-03 17:50 +0200
                Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-27 22:10 +0200
        Re : Re: Request for official help MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> - 2017-07-25 15:20 +0200

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#9343

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-08-01 12:50 +0200
Message-ID<u9CUq-2Qq-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,


Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me it?


Best regards



Le 01/08/2017 à 03:35, Ben Finney a écrit :
> Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>
>> Therefore I propose that we should write a letter (1).  Draft below.
> Thank you, this looks great.
>
>> https://www.debian.org/trademark). That policy doese not make any
>> requirement about EANs. Therefore (provided the the policy is adhered
>> to) we have no objection to Debian branded products being sold without
>> EANs.
> Typo: s/provided the the policy/provided that the policy/
>

-- 
signature_jp_2
Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
<tel:+33676349337>
jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
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#9344

FromAndrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
Date2017-08-01 13:20 +0200
Message-ID<u9Dns-3jr-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 06:42:41AM +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me it?
It was, both to you and to the list:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2017/07/msg00048.html
(unless you mean some other email).

-- 
WBR, wRAR

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#9345

FromBen Finney <bignose@debian.org>
Date2017-08-01 13:40 +0200
Message-ID<u9DGP-3pR-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9343
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> writes:

> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me
> it?

It is in the mailing list archives
<URL:https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/22911.11118.678652.677442@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.

You may want to check whether some messages are being misdirected or
lost on delivery to you.

-- 
 \           “I do not believe in forgiveness as it is preached by the |
  `\        church. We do not need the forgiveness of God, but of each |
_o__)                    other and of ourselves.” —Robert G. Ingersoll |
Ben Finney

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#9346

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-08-01 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<u9JVU-7qE-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9345
Hi,

Thanks, indeed it may have been missed by my reading or whatever.
Excellent proposan Ian, thanks. I really think it can fix the situation
and, anyway, I am good with testing with Amazon staff.

How do you want to proceed? Do you have an usual lawyer? Should I see
with a trusted organisation for Debian? Or is it enough for you to be
signed by a Debian representing, eg DPL?

Best regards,


Le 01/08/2017 à 13:31, Ben Finney a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> writes:
> 
>> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
>> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me
>> it?
> 
> It is in the mailing list archives
> <URL:https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/22911.11118.678652.677442@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.
> 
> You may want to check whether some messages are being misdirected or
> lost on delivery to you.
> 

-- 
Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
<tel:+33676349337>
jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
<https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
<https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>

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#9393

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-08-11 15:10 +0200
Message-ID<udhRp-3Vr-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,


Just to be sure I ded not miss any message: does this thread has a
follow-up after my reply? What would be the process to get a such doc
with an official signatureN


Thanks very much


Best regards,



Le 01/08/2017 à 19:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Thanks, indeed it may have been missed by my reading or whatever.
> Excellent proposan Ian, thanks. I really think it can fix the situation
> and, anyway, I am good with testing with Amazon staff.
>
> How do you want to proceed? Do you have an usual lawyer? Should I see
> with a trusted organisation for Debian? Or is it enough for you to be
> signed by a Debian representing, eg DPL?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Le 01/08/2017 à 13:31, Ben Finney a écrit :
>> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> writes:
>>
>>> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
>>> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me
>>> it?
>> It is in the mailing list archives
>> <URL:https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/22911.11118.678652.677442@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.
>>
>> You may want to check whether some messages are being misdirected or
>> lost on delivery to you.
>>

-- 
signature_jp_2
Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
<tel:+33676349337>
jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
<https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
<https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>

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#9452

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-08-27 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<ujdi2-4Ru-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,


When could I give a signed letter under te form proposed here? Would it
be possible for September?


Regards



Le 11/08/2017 à 07:51, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Just to be sure I ded not miss any message: does this thread has a
> follow-up after my reply? What would be the process to get a such doc
> with an official signatureN
>
>
> Thanks very much
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Le 01/08/2017 à 19:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks, indeed it may have been missed by my reading or whatever.
>> Excellent proposan Ian, thanks. I really think it can fix the situation
>> and, anyway, I am good with testing with Amazon staff.
>>
>> How do you want to proceed? Do you have an usual lawyer? Should I see
>> with a trusted organisation for Debian? Or is it enough for you to be
>> signed by a Debian representing, eg DPL?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Le 01/08/2017 à 13:31, Ben Finney a écrit :
>>> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> writes:
>>>
>>>> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
>>>> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me
>>>> it?
>>> It is in the mailing list archives
>>> <URL:https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/22911.11118.678652.677442@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.
>>>
>>> You may want to check whether some messages are being misdirected or
>>> lost on delivery to you.
>>>
>
> -- 
> signature_jp_2
> Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
> DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
> 102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
> Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
> <tel:+33676349337>
> jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
> www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
> Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
> <https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
> <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>
>
>

-- 
signature_jp_2
Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
<tel:+33676349337>
jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
<https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
<https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>

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#9453

FromBen Finney <bignose@debian.org>
Date2017-08-28 01:10 +0200
Message-ID<ujeQN-5Zx-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 27-Aug-2017, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,

I think this discussion doesn't need my involvement; please drop me
from future Cc of this thread.

-- 
 \       “You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a |
  `\         victor without having victims.” —Harriet Woods, 1927–2007 |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org>

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#9454

FromPaul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Date2017-08-28 09:30 +0200
Message-ID<ujmEG-2DM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9452
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:

> When could I give a signed letter under te form proposed here?

Please send your proposal to the Debian Project Leader:

Chris Lamb <leader@debian.org>
https://www.debian.org/devel/leader

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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#9824

FromIan Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2018-04-19 14:50 +0200
Message-ID<vGhaF-11p-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9452
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Did I miss something about this topic? Any news?

I'm sorry, I dropped this.  Please do hassle me if you don't hear more
in the next week.

Ian.

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#9859

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2018-04-30 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<vKjxf-6qs-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,

I saw the topic in quite progress last weeks ago. When do you think I
could get a signed letter, ideally mentioning explicitly Hypra?

Thanks for your support

best regards,

signature_jp_2
Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
<tel:+33676349337>
jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
<https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
<https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>


Le 30/03/2018 à 16:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Did I miss something about this topic? Any news?
>
> Best regards,
>
> signature_jp_2
> Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
> DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
> 102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
> Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
> <tel:+33676349337>
> jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
> www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
> Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter Hypra
> <https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
> <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>
>
>
> Le 27/08/2017 à 23:20, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> When could I give a signed letter under te form proposed here? Would
>> it be possible for September?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 11/08/2017 à 07:51, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to be sure I ded not miss any message: does this thread has a
>>> follow-up after my reply? What would be the process to get a such
>>> doc with an official signatureN
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks very much
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 01/08/2017 à 19:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, indeed it may have been missed by my reading or whatever.
>>>> Excellent proposan Ian, thanks. I really think it can fix the situation
>>>> and, anyway, I am good with testing with Amazon staff.
>>>>
>>>> How do you want to proceed? Do you have an usual lawyer? Should I see
>>>> with a trusted organisation for Debian? Or is it enough for you to be
>>>> signed by a Debian representing, eg DPL?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 01/08/2017 à 13:31, Ben Finney a écrit :
>>>>> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems the Ian's mail was not posted on the list (I dont find it in my
>>>>>> inbox and in archives of the mailing list). Could someone forward me
>>>>>> it?
>>>>> It is in the mailing list archives
>>>>> <URL:https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/22911.11118.678652.677442@chiark.greenend.org.uk>.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to check whether some messages are being misdirected or
>>>>> lost on delivery to you.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> signature_jp_2
>>> Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
>>> DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
>>> 102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
>>> Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
>>> <tel:+33676349337>
>>> jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
>>> www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
>>> Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter
>>> Hypra <https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
>>> <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> signature_jp_2
>> Logo Hypra 	JEAN-PHILIPPE MENGUAL
>> DIRECTEUR TECHNIQUE ET QUALITÉ
>> 102, rue des poissonniers, 75018, Paris
>> Tel : +331 84 73 06 61 <tel:+33184730661> Mob : +336 76 34 93 37
>> <tel:+33676349337>
>> jpmengual@hypra.fr <mailto:jpmengual@hypra.fr>
>> www.hypra.fr <http://www.hypra.fr/>
>> Facebook Hypra <https://www.facebook.com/hyprasoftware/> Twitter
>> Hypra <https://twitter.com/Hypra_> Linkedin Jean-Philippe
>> <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/jean-philippe-mengual-800133135>
>>
>>
>

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#9867

FromIan Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2018-05-03 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<vLkUi-bZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9859
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> I saw the topic in quite progress last weeks ago. When do you think I could get
> a signed letter, ideally mentioning explicitly Hypra?

I don't think it's likely that we would want to explicitly mention
anyone in particular.  Is that necessary ?

We wouldn't want to give the impression of an endorsement.

Ian.

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#9868

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2018-05-03 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<vLlwZ-GF-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9867
Le 03/05/2018 à 13:40, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
>> I saw the topic in quite progress last weeks ago. When do you think I could get
>> a signed letter, ideally mentioning explicitly Hypra?
> 
> I don't think it's likely that we would want to explicitly mention
> anyone in particular.  Is that necessary ?
> 
> We wouldn't want to give the impression of an endorsement.

Yes I understand. Just keep in mind that the letter is not public, just
for amazon staff. But well, I propose we try without explicit name and
see wether it is enough for Amazon.

Best regards,


> Ian.
>

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#9870

FromIan Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2018-05-03 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<vLouR-2Hi-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9868
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Yes I understand. Just keep in mind that the letter is not public, just
> for amazon staff. But well, I propose we try without explicit name and
> see wether it is enough for Amazon.

I was thinking we would put it on our website.  That way any CD vendor
with similar needs can use it.

Ian.

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#9871

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2018-05-03 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<vLoEx-2L0-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9870
Le 03/05/2018 à 17:36, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
>> Yes I understand. Just keep in mind that the letter is not public, just
>> for amazon staff. But well, I propose we try without explicit name and
>> see wether it is enough for Amazon.
> 
> I was thinking we would put it on our website.  That way any CD vendor
> with similar needs can use it.

Good idea. Lets see wether it is accepted, anyway if it is online I will
do a feedback about theirs.

Regards


> Ian.
> 
>

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#9335

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-07-27 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<u7Wud-1Iv-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9328

Le 25/07/2017 à 23:59, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
>> The alternative is my initial proposal, more simple than others indeed:
>> mentioning in an official letter that Debian will not get any EAN in
>> next two years, and that Debian does not want Hypra to sell Debian
>> without EAN. It does mean that anybody else cannot do it (anybody which
>> want to sell with or without EAN do what they want), but not Hypra (and
>> we agree of course), and it gives me the required base to request an EAN
>> exemption to Amazon.
> 
> Can you please point me to the documentation you are reading about
> these letters ?

hmm I requested it, but they have no public URL for it. It is just a
request they do per e-mail. I can produce a screenshot of mail il you want.

regards,

> Ian.
> 
> 

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#9321 — Re : Re: Request for official help

FromMENGUAL Jean-Philippe <mengualjeanphi@free.fr>
Date2017-07-25 15:20 +0200
SubjectRe : Re: Request for official help
Message-ID<u77UJ-3gI-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9319
Hi,

I agree with this. I think we mainly should create EANs for live DVDs and CD/DVD1 of installer, for some architectures only, then on-demand.

THe fact is that if I understand what I read about EANs, it would have not additional cost for Debian, just some time. Once the framework done (subscription to the service), I can help for generating EANs for Debian releases from the official images available in the archive.

What are the next steps if the project agrees with this? Should I help? How can I make things easier? Do you want me to find an international service for EANs and submit it just to make a Debian folk do the subscription with appropiate delegations to pay and declare Debian?

Best regards,



Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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----- Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 04:39:21PM +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> > Right but if Debian could subscribe to such service, it could freely
> > generate as EANs as needed for their releases, installers, liveDVDs. But
> > indeed, maybe it is not the easiest solution.
> 
> I think it does make sense to have EANs for Debian, but perhaps it isn't
> necessary to have an EAN for *everything* we produce.
> 
> E.g., we could have:
> 
> - An EAN for CD1, DVD1, and BD1 for every architecture,
> - An EAN for the various live images
> - An EAN for "the full set" of DVD and BD images
> 
> There's no need to have an EAN for, say, the armel DVD#10 or some such.
> 
> Alternatively, we could assign EANs on a by-request basis; if a media
> vendor wants to sell a particular (set of) image(s) on amazon or some
> other such site that doesn't have an EAN yet, provide a contact for them
> to request an EAN for that set.
> 
> -- 
> Could you people please use IRC like normal people?!?
> 
>   -- Amaya Rodrigo Sastre, trying to quiet down the buzz in the DebConf 2008
>      Hacklab
>

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